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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    If it keeps FG out of the Aras im happy enough.

    I won't actually mind if Jim Gavin ends up winning but keeping FG away from it is my main hope

    Hopefully they don't remove Harris then before any general election and it will be bye bye FG from Govt too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    So you don't really care if Connolly wins. It's just an anti FG vote?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,764 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Were you saying similar last June and November?

    Hows all that going for you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The emergence of a modern Left/Right axis in Irish politics has been a long time coming. Looking at the GE stats from the 1989 GE onwards shows the decline of FF as the dominant party in Irish politics. A single Left presidential candidate is probably a bad thing for FF and FG because they have been used to dealing with a fragmented Left. As for the Irish media telling people anything about politics, remember that these are the same people who told everyone that Hillary Clinton would in in 2016, Labour would get around 15 seats in 2016, repeated that Joe Biden was sharp as a tack, that Varadkar would be a great leader for FG, and that Kamala Harris would be elected president in 2024. This is going to be a very dirty election campaign and FFG's friends in the media will do everything they can to help their candidates. If they over do it, Connolly could win.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭pureza


    Errr wasn’t Mary Robinson a left candidate,what year was that again ?

    The rest of your post is just soap boxing



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    I want Connolly to win. If she doesn't win, I'd hope Gavin wins

    By way il be giving neither Gavin or Heather any preference



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Even for supporters of Palestine, calling Hamas "part of the fabric" of Palestine may be too much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Nethanyahu couldn't have said it better in reality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭dublincc2


    I suppose it wasn’t that much of a surprise that Delehanty has crashed out.

    I am glad that Steen looks to be in with a shot of being on the ballot. I would of course be delighted if she became president but the realist in me thinks it will more likely than not be Humphreys. Why anyone would vote for HH outside of blind FG loyalty is beyond me, but I have a feeling she will win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,086 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    The backwards and forewards posts are almost as entertaining as Sunday's entertainment in the second match in Parnell Park in the Dublin club championship.

    I think people are starting to loose sight of what was said.

    Here is the gist of it -

    1. Kier Starmer says that Hamas should not be in government in a future Palestinian state, in his view
    2. Connolly basically said that Hamas is part of Palestine culture. Saying Starmer should not lecture another culture/country, Connolly also used the word "fabric"in relation to Hamas.

    To me that word implied that Hamas were the majority support among Palestinians overstating their importance. However, nowhere did Connolly say she supported Hamas though.

    But you have to think of parallels with SF here. Most of which Mary Lou would wish not be reminded of prior to the GFA SF had low electoral support etc.

    But fast forward about 20 years Martin McGuinness like him or not was integral to the peace process. And even ran as as a nominee in the the 2011 POI election.

    Would Adams and McGuinness have described themselves as part of the "Fabric" of NI probably not, but they would have at least used the words consensus, negotiation, shared Island all that jazz. As they would have had the nous to know that "fabric" was pushing it when referring to the provisional IRA.

    Another poster said that Mary Lou is probably "raging" I would agree. SF trying to modernise itself, a bespoke branding for the ROI. But now negative parallels are drawn between Hamas and the Provos for the older electorate. Who Connolly likely needs to claim victory in the Presidential race.

    I think what Connolly said would play well in the border counties and NI, but not in the ROI. Given her choice of words.

    But I could be wrong of course. For example, I have an elderly mother who is adamant she is voting for Connolly 1) because Connolly is a woman, 2) Connolly is from Galway. Nothing more complex than that.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    I have an elderly aunt by marriage. She is from lough egish in Monaghan originally.i went to see her on Saturday and she voting for HH, based on she's a good Monaghan woman.



  • Site Banned Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire


    I think it was a question easily answered, if she wanted to make the point that other countries can't dictate to Palestine who they elect.

    She's a wee bit prone to get the emphasis wrong. Having said that there were occasions when MDH, Castro's death, went too far for some. I remember many heated discussions on here about him exceeding the Presidential brief.

    The funny thing is, if you agreed with his point, you tended to ignore that! Myself included!

    All our biases tend to come out I find. You see it on here. We feign a neutral viewpoint on a lot of things but eventually something triggers us and our political leanings come out!

    Personally I still carry a bit of anti FG sentiment, FF family background. And a bit of arm chair Republicanism. Sometimes I rise above it, sometimes I don't.

    I found myself thinking Simon Coveney would have made a good FG candidate today, I'm finding accepting HH's Orange side, tough going!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,871 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    It’s not a big deal what she said. The last time that a legislative election was held in Palestine, in 2006, Hamas was elected as the largest party. Connolly might have to clarify her comments but will be able to do that. Micheál Martin jumping up and down with shrill admonitions is embarrassing.

    The story on Palestine is changing rapidly, France and even the UK is now recognising it as a state. Micheál would want to watch it that he’s not out of step.

    Hamas shouldn’t have a role in a future situation there if actual peace and progress is achieved, but for now they’ll be part of the negotiations. Get real Micheál.

    Post edited by TheCitizen on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,384 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    In a way Connolly was just stating the obvious regarding Hamas.

    It's also clear she's independent minded and is likely to speak unguardedly.



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    It's the last thing anyone who supports the Palestinians wants to hear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,871 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    She’d be very like Michael D Higgins in that regard. He said things and was very outspoken on certain matters that he never said when he became the President. He understood the role and Connolly (a former Ceann Comhairle) will understand it as well. She’ll make a good President.


    I would call her the Michael D Continuity Candidate. Her campaign might not use that term because they’ll want to present her as her own persona, which of course she is. The electorate (majority of them) liked Higgins as President. If they want that sort of Presidency to continue, it will be part of the reason why she’ll win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭jmcc


    A partial quote taken out of context. Standard enough in an election.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    Connolly is a dangerous nutjob.

    But she’s right to say that Hamas is part of the Palestinian fabric. Any future Palestinian state with any Hamas influence would be a victory for the terrorists. It won’t happen though because Israel and USA won’t let it happen. I support Israel and USA stopping the set up of such a terrorist state.

    I won’t be voting for Connolly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,828 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    I would suggest the current state of Gaza is not a “victory” for anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭Hibernicis




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    I understand it completely. I will not be giving a vote to HH or JG.

    If my preference CC dosn't win, I hope JG wins over HH

    That's as far as I care



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    I'm finding accepting HH's Orange side, tough going!

    Thats just plain dumb. She was born a Presbyterian, into a strong Presbyterian community and into a family with an allegedly strong Orange and Unionist tradition. Instead of remaining ensconced in that and perhaps embittered by it she joined and very actively took part in mainstream politics in country. Like or loath her politics, she is an outstanding example of someone who bridged/lept a divide and avoided tribal incarceration by playing an active part in the broader community. We need a lot more like her on both sides of the divide if ever there is a harmonious peace rather than the current uneasy co-habitation.

    What would make her Orange side easier for you to accept ? Maybe marching up and down the main street of Drum beating the shite out of a Lambeg drum while singing the Sash My Father Wore ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,328 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Interesting, so you believe 30% of the population are so socially conservative to the extent they would want Marian Steen elected however they are also at the same time unable to elect 20 tds or senators equaling 8% of both houses of the oireachtas that would guarantee them to have a nominee they can vote for without all the dealing, lobbying and horse trading that's been happening to MAYBE get her close to 20 nominations.

    That's a very shy and quiet 22% of the population we seem to be missing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,609 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Both sides are terrorists. The only difference is that Israel and the US have the better weapons. But both are terrorists.



  • Site Banned Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire


    Rubbish post. I don't like her OO connections. A sectarian organisation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    How's it dumb to not want a woman with very strong links to a sectarian hate organisation not being our president?

    The OO are not much better than the KKK



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The coverage on Gavin is getting stranger and stranger. Apparently it is the the foreign "far right".

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/aras-watch-malicious-smears-targeting-jim-gavin-appear-to-be-first-signs-of-outside-far-right-interference-in-an-irish-election/a1395248131.html

    Wouldn't this "far right" be doing everything possible to stop Connolly being elected?

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,561 ✭✭✭combat14


    most of the irish electorate are rip roaring hamas terrorist lovers surely connolly will romp home



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    Don't often agree with Fionnan Sheahan but I think he's got this much right:

    Instead, we’re left with Jim Gavin boring us to tears with his lack of opinions, Catherine Connolly objecting to every question and Heather Humphreys panicking over all her answers.

    https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/fionnan-sheahan-mary-lous-bags-of-cash-could-be-key-as-sinn-fein-takes-left-alliance-for-test-drive/a365143995.html



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    It's one Irish American Trumper who has beef with the Irish government posting these things across several platforms because he was annoyed by a Simon Harris instagram post before the US election of a Kamala Harris cap which he believes constituted foreign interference.

    I'm really not sure why it's getting this level of mainstream coverage or why it's being described as "waves of online abuse" as if it's some kind of sophisticated organised campaign. Did the media not learn from 2011 that regurgitating claims from randomers on twitter is a bad idea?



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