Presidential Election 2025

The citizens assembly asked for 10,000 signatures.

I have no problem with the idea in principle, but I would be asking for a threshold of 100,000 names, of voting age, to be linked to PPS numbers.

I think if someone is worthy, its a fair bar.

No, funnily enough, I wouldn't. But if you think 100,000 physical papers is either practical or secure, then I'll leave it to the other posters on the forum to assess your intelligence on the subject.

What I would be looking for, is an online subscription system, run by the Electoral Commission and attached to the MyGov service, where you need your PPS to login anyway, and where a citizen could make one nomination only.

15???

Just how poor do you want the quality to get? Just look at the bunch of cretins that turned up to various Council meetings. I'm not talking about Sheridan or Steen, who are well able to make a case for themselves, whether you agree with it or not, but people like Sarah Louise Mulligan and Dolores Cahill. Absolute blithering fruit and nut cases. Exactly the sort of hopeless fools that Article 12.4 was designed to weed out.

Other countries have a run-off system because sometimes they have immense populations, and they generally do it where they have an executive president, like Macron for example.

For a largely ceremonial head of state, with scant few constitutional powers, what you suggest is way too complex and expensive.

We've frequently seen ballots of twenty or more candidates European elections and some GE constituencies so I don't understand where this intense gatekeeping desire on the Presidential ballot comes from.

Even though I have no interest or alignment with those candidates it feels like a disservice to the democratic process if candidates getting nominations from entire councils and double digit TDs / Senators cannot make the ballot.

Sean Gallagher and Peter Casey were both 6th in opinion polls at the start of campaigns for 2011/2018 and ended up finishing in 2nd so we really shouldn't second guess what the electorate thinks of candidates before a campaign has started.

Are we seriously still making an argument for just any aul schmuck to be given an easy ride onto a ballot paper to be the President, First Citizen, gatekeeper to the Constitution and High Commander to the Defence Forces?

Honestly lads, you're all deluding yourselves.

Completely forgot a couple of weeks back someone here called for a Constitutional review into the Constitution. Amazing stuff.

Sure, but is it more farcical than just 3 candidates when 2 of them represent the government parties?

Democracy generally benefits from more choice rather than less, TV debates are a secondary concern.

The requirement to run to be an MEP should be much higher.

By the design of an immutable ledger and internal and external audit of the system, just like every other secure system in banking and Revenue and Social Protection and the CSO Census database, to name but a few. Its not a difficult concept.

Several dozen nation states and regions of states have introduced fully online voting, and the veracity of it has held up.

I'm quite sure even little old Ireland could manage a system of online nominations.

I'd be happy enough with the present system personally. Adding layers for nomination processes is open to fraud and unnecessary. The present system is democratic and perfectly achievable for candidates. The other is open for Internet likes, a cesspit.

dom dom dooommm

You can feel the tension

Believe the game changer is to be revealed around noon.

If he or she is a more credible candidate than the current group,I’ll be voting for SF for the first time in my life

Whoever it is better be young and charismatic and capable of projecting Irelands image on the World stage well

Incidentally I note Katie Taylor has taken a step back from boxing for a while