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Presidential Election.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,044 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    His re-election doesn't mean people agreed with those comments, it was in spite of them really, and having no other electable candidate helped.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    Prediction:

    This election will have the largest number of non-voters / spoiled votes in living memory and McGregor will use that as 'proof' that he was the people's choice and should have been allowed on the ballot.

    They really all are a genuinely uninspiring bunch of candidates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,472 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Catherine Connolly presents an image of strength, honesty and integrity.

    She isn't going to dress up for those who cannot even recognise their own deeply ingrained conservatism and superiority.
    People stopped doing that years ago, particularly strong independently minded women.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,891 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Interesting point on radio today. HH's launch was very polished but afterwards in the question and answer session with journalists she was very nervous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,289 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Unless you get someone that goes off on some right wing crap.

    The president should be seen not heard.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,458 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,472 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Vote for one who will comply then.

    It isn't a law.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,784 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    As long as Heather's only opponents are Gavin & Connolly FG won't be over-worried about how she comes across in the media…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,941 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Did anyone actually watch it? It got very little attention.

    I just googled it and HH said Michael D was correct in speaking out about housing and Gaza and she would not be afraid to speak her mind too.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,458 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Where did you watch it?

    She is very hard to listen to, so insincere and condescending.

    Here she is at the ploughing for 10 minutes https://www.northernsound.ie/podcasts/the-wider-view/listen-back-humphreys-holds-press-conference-at-ploughing-championships-267711



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,650 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    But only when he says something I don't agree with it seems..

    I actually enjoy when MDH speaks out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,601 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    ”Presenting well” has nothing got to do with being a strong independently minded woman.
    If Catherine Connolly wishes to dress as she does, she’s perfectly entitled to do that - but it doesn’t mean she’s going to “win” a presidential election - Joanna Donnelly was a popular enough (or so she thought) weather broadcaster and meteorologist - but she quickly realised that a certain level of familiarity and fame wouldn’t carry through to such an important role

    - just because someone is held in high esteem for one role, doesn’t mean they’re entitled to get another one-

    you’re making this out to be about women and what they wear - it’s not- it’s about taking the time and care to present yourself first and foremost to the Irish electorate - and win them over - anything that distracts from that and creates doubt in their minds will naturally become an issue.

    Really from what you’re saying, you believe all people should only be judged on their minds and words - well sorry now, but that’s just fanciful thinking and from the world of Pollyanna - it’s not how the world works and it’s certainly not how the world of politics works - not for this job at least . So less of the “deeply ingrained superiority” digs -if Catherine wants to go on this ticket to actually win, she needs to at least create the illusion that she wants the job - currently how she’s presenting to me is saying “I don’t want this job” - and many others will say the same thing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,941 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I didn't actually watch it. Read the RTE.ie link on it.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,472 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    -'if Catherine wants to go on this ticket to actually win, she needs to at least create the illusion that she wants the job - currently how she’s presenting to me is saying “I don’t want this job” - and many others will say the same thing

    live up to my standards of what is an appropriate appearance'

    You can 'dress' it up anyway you like. That is what you are advising a woman to do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,601 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I didn’t hear or see it- but that’s the huge challenge with going for election as President of Ireland - people want your opinion on absolutely everything and quite frankly a lot is totally irrelevant to the very limited and straightjacketed role of the presidency.

    I can guarantee that all 3/4 candidates will struggle if left to an open mic interview with the media

    -I can understand people wanting to get to know who their prospective president is and stands for, but some of the questions are just too much in the political day to day politics sphere and should be directed at the relevant minister of the day, not a presidential candidate - BUT , you do need to know yourself very well and what your own principles are - a few hours of PR coaching and learning off soundbytes won’t help you with that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,601 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Well it’s not a Sinn Fein local election we’re talking here Francie - I can guarantee you if the SF research boffins proved that SF voters want their prospective candidates to be wearing shirts and ties and dresses and makeup , then that’s exactly what they’d be wearing - but even then, your own esteemed leader does devote at least a few moments every day to her appearance so it’s obviously not just me who thinks that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,472 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Fairly typical debating there. Get called out, it's 'but the Shinners!'

    Well done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Marcos


    Nah, Marty Morrisey, back the marty party. 🤣

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,601 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    There’s no need to get offended - Sinn Féin’s signature calling card for donkeys years, from a “presentation” perspective, has been wooly jumpers and open neck shirts- think Martin McGuinness- but even he donned a suit in the 2011 election - not a 3 piece or even a two piece suit to be seen amongst the men - this conversation is not about SF- true- but it is about image- and the image of SF is carefully crafted to suit their target audience -albeit is actually probably changing somewhat as they want to reach out to more voters - you so see the odd tie or two - but all the main parties have their image - it’s no big secret - including and actually especially the People before Profit party - who essentially dress like scangers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    If how you appear and dress made no difference, a male footballer could enter the pitch wearing a suit, or a female footballer high heels. Similarly, a hotel porter could wear the same overalls he had on in the morning cleaning out his sewage tank. An office worker could turn up in the crowded office wearing the same sweat-stained t-shirt he has worn for the previous three weeks.

    Like it or not, presentation and appearance are a large part of the requirements for many many jobs.

    Connolly fails when it comes to the Presidency.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,601 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Yep ….but but the people of Gaza/homelessness/Donald Trump/😀 !!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,601 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Here’s Martin McGuinness looking presidential


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    And here he is as he looked for the decades before the 2011 election


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    If Martin McGuinness can leave aside his woolly jumpers, I don’t see why Catherine Connolly can’t make a similar effort - Martin obviously thought it was important in order to gain votes -maybe Catherine doesn’t believe it is - we’ll see



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yet you stated that those remarks were unpopular. Not amongst the electorate it seems where he hugely increased his vote in 2018. By far the largest vote in the history of the Republic. And in a multi-candidate election rather than the political duopoly of the several decades post-independence.

    Once again I ask - prove the unpopularity of his remarks cos it certainly wasn't with the people of this Republic?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Clearly not what the public wants given Higgins' landslide re-election and enduring popularity. Were he able to stand again he's breeze through the elction.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    As do the electorate. The poster should just state that they don't like MDH.



  • Site Banned Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire


    Other possible celebrity SF candidates, Mickey Harte, the GAA one. His son Mark has Irish but little known.

    Overall the last thing we want is another GAA person. I'm a big GAA man but I think most are unsuited to the Presidency. Particularly the managers with no political, scholarly experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,769 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    This is nonsense - you can shout sexism or misogyny all you like, but it's not the case.

    Appearance/perception matters - ESPECIALLY in politics, but even in ordinary situations like the workplace or an interview. Equally the ability to put yourself across clearly and competently is vital in both.

    She can dress any way she likes, but if she doesn't look "presidential" it'll hurt her. Equally, having heard Gavin's hesitant repetitive style over recent coverage, he's not shining there either, so nothing at all to do with what sex they are.

    There's none of them I would happily vote for at this stage.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The world of Personal Shopping is missing your talents………

    PM your details cos I could certainly use some advice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,289 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Easy to make popular remarks. Never heard him say anything that wasn't popular for some reason.

    There was a convention that they keep their whist and rightly so, it's just one person's opinion at the end of the day. Suppose we have a president that makes unpopular remarks? This is why they shouldn't be allowed mouth off.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,112 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    I’m really curious who this “game changer” SF candidate will be.

    Sounds like they will be running someone, and Mary Lou has ruled herself out

    It would be odd if they announce an outsider at this stage , without any hints or rumors to date



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