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Would you visit USA in the current climate?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,762 ✭✭✭whippet


    What has that got to do with anything? I have been to the states many times and in the last few years there is just a different feel about the place. Why would I spend my hard earned money going to somewhere like the states now when I can go somewhere else. It's a personal choice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,402 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    100%. You've been and have a valid opinion.

    Many commenting have not been and have no valid opinion outside of what the algorithms are feeding them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭daithi7


    Ha, try telling that to the poor Irish grandmother who was locked up by ICE recently when trying to go back to the US after a short trip abroad, despite her being resident in the US since she was 11 or something!?

    The Yanks want to make the US less accessible, by voting in the Orange Orangutan & his ICE cronies, etc, etc, so wtf would any rational person want to access the place in that climate!?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,235 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    I wasn't of this view until quite recently, but I say this: in my opinion violence in the US is going to continue and escalate from here, and things will get considerably worse before they get better. Maybe they need to have at it full-pelt over there and get it done to fook, I don't know - and try to rebuild something like a civilised society out of whatever is left. Because they sure don't have one right now. Newt Gingrich didn't invent Pig-Fucker Politics - that honour belongs to LBJ - but he sure did elevate it to high art in the '90s over AM radio.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭Illusory


    Lived in the US on a green card for 47 years? Why did she not become a US citizen in all that time?

    Writing bad checks is referred to as check fraud. It is considered a criminal offense and can result in fines and/or imprisonment.

    “Lawful Permanent Residents presenting at a U.S. port of entry with certain criminal convictions may be found inadmissible, placed in removal proceedings, and subject to mandatory detention.

    “A green card is a privilege, not a right, and under our nation’s laws, our government has the authority to revoke a green card if our laws are broken and abused.”

    Did it all get resolved for her?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭yagan


    The cheque was for about $25 three decades ago, it was dealt with in the courts at the time and discharged.

    It was never an issue on reentry until now.

    The regime were fire with her for decades, now the regime has a convicted sex offender and possible pedophile in charge.

    He did rate his own daughters "do-ability" on the Howard Stern show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭Illusory


    It was not 'discharged.' She paid it back and was sentenced to probation. But the crime remains on her record. Do I agree it is overkill, yes. There needs to be some latitude in all this. But the law is being followed.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I've been tracking the price of a flight from Dublin to Chicago in November for the last 6 months.

    The price has dropped about €50 over that period of time, but it keeps going back to close to the original price and then down €50 every few days, admittedly it has not increased.

    But when Trump came to office and there was all this talk about stricter border security etc people here in Ireland were saying the price of flights to America would collapse with all the people boycotting America because of Trump.

    Unfortunately for me that doesn't seem to be happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    I have never been to the US. I've always found the gun-culture, and the Religious Right intimidating and in the latter case quite hostile to LGBT people, including all of the components of LGBT. I certainly won't go there under Trump, and if Vance is president, I won't go there either if he continues down the present course as his boss.

    Before they were giving out about trans people (which seems fairly recent actually), they were complaining about gay people. Before that they were complaining about Black people. Its the same region of the USA as previously, i.e. the South. But its also the place where the Republican party is strongest and that has dominated the party since 1992, with the infamous "Culture Wars" speech of Pat Buchanan. Buchananism is an early form of Trumpism except it actually believed in religion. I'm sceptical Trump is really that religious, though I think he is in the tradition of authoritarian leaders that tries to co-opt it.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    But if you went to America you would realize that it's not all gun culture and the religious right intimidating and going hostile to LGBT people.

    What you described is probably a tiny minority that you would only see if you actively seeked it out.

    Your post is typical of someone who has never been to America.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If you can refer to Trump as the "Orange Orangutan " can I refer to the man he succeeded in 2016 as the black monkey?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    They keep electing very intolerant conservatives in the South, who pass horrible discriminatory laws.

    Correction the GOP platforms anti LGBT language was moderated in 2024. It still opposed same sex marriage though in 2016.

    Some state GOP platforms (e.g. Texas) still include explicit negative language about homosexuality. For instance, the Texas GOP platform described homosexuality as an “abnormal lifestyle choice,” opposes “special legal status” for LGBTQ+ people, and says that “no one should be granted special legal status based on their LGBTQ+ identification.”

    The Guardian+2Them+2



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭Illusory




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭yagan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭Illusory


    Obama is half black and half white. He picked black as a choice.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    But how would all that affect you as a tourist, even a LGBT tourist?

    Would you not visit New York because of something the Texas GOP thousands of miles away think?

    Do you scrutinise the politics of every country or region you visit?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    They are turning people back because of criticism of Trump on social media. They are putting people in ICE detention for trifling reasons, like the woman and the bounced $25 check 10 years ago. She has been in the US since the 1970s.

    They are deporting old people. Its ludicrous and we know from reports that ICE is being told to meet "targets", and as such is going after the harmless and legal residents, like she is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    I was in Vegas last year because I wanted to visit a national park and Vegas just happened to be the closest city to fly to and rent a car. I only spent two half-days there at the start and end of the trip. It is probably the most bizarre place I've been to, but I don't necessary mean that in a bad way. I can totally understand why someone would dislike it, and unless you are an avid gambler, I wouldn't recommend it as a destination. But if you are in the area for the parks and hiking, I'd recommend just checking it out at least once. At the very least, you have a decent selection of high quality restaurants, albeit quite pricy.

    One sort of culture shock that I couldn't get over when I was there were the number of morbidly obese American tourists just rolling around the Vegas strip on mobility scooters. A saw loads of them on the strip and in casinos; and in my hotel, loads of the mobility scooters were left in the hall outside rooms. I'd say the only time those people actually walked was to get from their bed to the mobility scooter in the morning, and vice versa in the evening.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Usually the banner headline stories of turning people back because of criticism of Trump fail to acknowledge that there's some other underlying reasons for them getting turned away.

    But again how would all that affect a normal Irish person traveling to America?

    Are there even any authentic cases of Irish people being denied entry to the US for criticising Trump?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭MakersMark


    Just got back from California

    Had a wonderful time.

    The less lefty visitors, the better.

    Guinness was $7 for a 16oz pint in Tommy's Joynt in SF.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭Illusory


    Guinness Stout Draft? That's a rather inexpensive price being it's San Francisco.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Ceathran


    It is the worst in the world. People wait years for surgeries, old people are left in pain on trollies, it's always overwhelmed.

    But the biggest problem is groupthink. 99% of the population thinks the same way. That's why there's no difference between the political parties, the radio stations, the newspapers, the universities, etc. 5 people who all think the exact same way as you thanked your post, for example. It's frightening. At least in the US it's 50:50. You can find a state that suits you. I'd live in Texas if I lived in the US.

    And I don't think I'm going off topic here. I'm trying to compare the US with modern Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Ceathran


    It's an iconic building. Of course I went to it. It would be ridiculous to go to New York and not go to it. And there is definitely a disturbing obsession with Donald Trump here. I never give Trump a second thought. He has no impact on my life whatsoever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Ceathran


    It's not stable. It has the worst criminal justice system in the world too. That's why there are thousands of criminals walking around the place with thousands of previous convictions.

    And it's a fake prosperity. Salaries are extremely low here compared with other countries. You have people getting crazy mortgages to live in horrendous places in Dublin. It's very strange.

    The US is far superior.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Ceathran


    The public transport system is horrendous. And even using public transport, especially in Dublin, is awful too. You have to listen to idiots watching videos on their phone, you have idiots who put their bag on the seat next to them so that people can't sit beside them, you often have drunk people on the bus or Luas, the buses are extremely slow.

    The metro / subway in New York is wonderful. It runs 24/7.

    For me, it was great when it was pro-life, when people believed in God, when people didn't go around trying to sound like Americans (saying 'movie', writing dates the US way), when the media weren't as horrendous as they are now, when people could afford to visit places in their own country without being ripped off (it's cheaper to spend a month in parts of Spain then a weekend in Dublin), when people didn't go around smoking weed.

    We'll agree to disagree. The only thing I like about here is the countryside.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭MakersMark


    Yes...on draught...was surprised.

    WWas only the 16 oz pint though, but still cheaper than Malahide



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Because we have pre clearance at Dublin airport, it's harder to detect. But there was the French professor who criticised the CDC and NIH cuts and was refused entry.

    Supervisor of Johnson county, Iowa, refusing Governor Kim Reynolds order to lower flags in honour of Charlie Kirk.

    Screenshot_2025-09-17-21-54-23-399.jpg


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    And when exactly will you be visiting Iowa and how will how high on the pole the flags are affect your visit?

    So no examples of Irish people being turned away for trivial reasons?

    As for the French professor, the Americans have a completely different story on it.

    I'm not saying which is true, just that it's not as simple as people think



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,406 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    I hope to deffo go next year. Might even see can I get to The White House.



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