Israel/Palestine Thread

"I'm back"

Back spouting horse sh!te

I am genuinely curious - what drives you to post disinformation and put such obvious illogical viewpoints out there?

Has it ever entered your mind that you are wrong? That the countless independent bodies, human rights groups in Israel and out, academics focusing on genocide, and many politicians, and now the UN - that all those calling this genocide are right? That the whole world, including the many Jewish people opposed to this, aren't antisemetic or supporters of terrorism?

That if Hamas are so powerful, and able to dupe the world so easily, why haven't they been able to do this previously? Are you never curious how such a elaborate and seemingly omnipotent propoganda machine, capable of fooling the institutions responsible for international law, havnt been close to giving Palestine a state yet? Instead, Hamas are regularly and roundly condemned by almost all world leaders.

It seems to me like you have an immovable opinion on this conflict. It doesn't matter what genuine evidence there is, you will trawl the internet to find the flimsiest or most biased pieces you can, and that is all it takes to reinforce your already immovable opinion. Even when your links are debunked, as almost all of them are, it doesn't seem to affect your viewpoint, or does it make you pause for thought?

The red velvet cake link was in particular a crazy thing to try to argue for. Do you genuinely believe that was real?

Are Israel going to bomb the UN now looking for Hamas? Actually, I wouldn't be one bit surprised if they did. You're on the wrong side of history pa.

Tonight’s news show an absolutely flattened Gaza with over 100 killed today. The UN asks countries to stop selling arms to Israel when vast areas are already reduced to rubble.
Stable door Horse long gone comes to mind.

Mr T’s perambulations around UK palaces seems so empty in the face of this destruction.

What is most chilling about the genocide in Gaza is the widespread support it enjoys from the US and Europe politicians. It's wholly brazen and yet the US and Europe continue to endorse and support israel to a level that makes them willing accomplices. Even though it is politically very unpopular with US and European voters, there isn't the slightest chance of the US or EU representing their voters views on it.

However it pans out in the end, in the future I believe historians will recognise the Gaza genocide is where the US and Europe lost any claim to moral superiority over the rest of the world. We almost never hear any talk about the rules based order anymore. Nobody in the rest of the world wants to hear about it.

There are more than 50 different vessels in the flotilla with thousands of people on board (44 different nationalities). One wonders how the terrorist state are going to handle their arrival : the risk of this being a PR disaster for Israel is quite high.

What international organisation 'do' you respect and consider as credible?

Might be a step too far even for them, but expect heavy handed blockage of Flotilla.

I dunno, they're gone into full berserker mode. I wouldn't put anything past them at this stage

So your argument is that Hamas still runs Gaza? How is that going for them?

This omnipotent Hamas - who's fighters are also capable of disappearing and reappearing at will (afterall, Hamas control centre was the justification for almost every house, school, hospital, college, mosque, church, farm, well, library that has been blown up and subsequently bulldozed) - are still in complete control of a country of rubble that is not only overrun with an invading army, but where that same army have food, aid, power, medicine, baby formula and clean water blockaded at the borders?

It wasn't Hamas who stopped international journalists from reporting on the conflict.

The UN have the job of often having to govern the worst humanity has to offer, be it the genocidal forces in Rwanda, Bosnia, Congo - this Israeli regime now sits amongst them for the scale and barbarity of their crimes.

Their job isn't an easy one, but it is one that is gravely needed - I doubt many who don't subscribe to nonsensical ideologies founded first and foremost in bigotry and supremacy (and willing to burn the world's institutions down when they stand against this) would see the UN as having zero credibility.

The Sumud flotilla should try to land at different ports along the Palestinian coast to prevent the genocidal Israeli state from blocking their access. A new D-Day is coming.