Charlie Kirk.

I think this is why it’s become such a big topic of discussion and there is a weird feeling of sadness in the air on both sides. People truly have lost their way. It’s evident throughout this thread.

Sounds about right.

We have no idea how "left" and "right" were defined along with which accounts were included for study and which were not. Were lurkers included? Alt-accounts? What was done about those.

I get that the whole asking for proof thing isn't ideal but this is a perfect case study as to why American mainstream conservatism needs to be treated with this level of skepticism.

The constant personal attacks by posters is not helping. The off topic postings do get a bit boring. But mods can't be constantly on threads to prevent this.

Just take two out of your list at random.

Hakim Littleton. What do you think is the appropriate response to a man firing two shots from a handgun at police?

Mr Brooks failed a DWI test, resisted arrest struck the officer, grabbed his taser and ran away. He then turned and fired his taser. He was then shot.

Can you find me a dictionary which would define any of those as "murder".

Research below from Roland Fryer, a Harvard academic.

Abstract included here

"This paper explores racial differences in police use of force. On non-lethal uses of force,blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to experience some form of forcein interactions with police. Adding controls that account for important context and civilianbehavior reduces, but cannot fully explain, these disparities. On the most extreme use of force –ocer-involved shootings – we find no racial di↵erences in either the raw data or when contextualfactors are taken into account. We argue that the patterns in the data are consistent with a model in which police ocers are utility maximizers, a fraction of which have a preference for discrimination, who incur relatively high expected costs officer-involved shootings."

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/fryer/files/empirical_analysis_tables_figures.pdf

Its the pushing of your narrative, and retarded policies like defund the police (which Harris couldn't distance herself from one time endorsing it) which lost democrats the law and order vote. Further evidenced by the utter sh1tholes former great cities like san fran and NY were to visit.

Boards was a much more pleasant community type place before the far right targeted it and made it miserable. That is what turned people away. You wouldn't find a boards beers happening today but they were frequent events in the past.

Mod Edit: Warned for trolling

Its not deflection, its factual.
And deflecting from what? Its highlighting the parameters that affect the output of AI's.
That you think thats a deflection, is a bit weird.
When its actually something that most, to borrow a turn of phrase, right minded people, would seek to ensure is widely known.

Based on experience of actually managing AI implementations in a multinational telco.
If you want to take a look back at my post history here, my earliest AI related posts are from 2017 or 2018.
Discussing the use case of IBM Watson, long before iterative or generative AI was available to the masses.

Now as for the independence of AI, if a model such as Grok is independent?
Why does it need to be retrained whenever it drifts to giving consistently left answers?

Now Grok isnt the only AI that needs occassional recalibration, but it is the only one that needs it on a regular basis due to its ideology and outputs drifting from its owner's.

If Robinson shot Kirk because of this alledged partner, someone the authorities appear to believe knew nothing about him intending to do so, then his reasoning had nothing to do with either right or left. It was for personal reasons.

No different than John Hinckley Jn. shooting Ronald Reagan because of his obsession with the actress Jodie Foster. Nowadays with this, all violent crime is caused by the left nonesense from Trump and his MAGAs, they would most likely be shouting it was due to these mysterious lefties as Jodie Foster is a gay woman.

Plenty of trump supporters and so called far right would be considered trailer trash etc. The reaction has shown the right wing is in fact moderate then MSM would have you believe. Realistically being right wing now is what used to be considered central.

AI is a machine it is as good as what it is programmed with and learned and how a question is asked. It is neither left right or centre. People should stop relying on AI to give them what they want and use it along with there own research

Well George Floyd was a scumbag, a violent criminal that among other deeds robbed a pregnant woman at gunpoint. Charlie Kirk just said some things that hurt some feelings.

As I have said to you this Governor has been all over the place with even his official statements, and his latest offering wasn`t an official statement faik. It was during an interview where he expressed that view and then avoided saying who these supposed family or friends were. The only public family statement is from an interview with Robinson`s grandmother who said the family were strong Trump supporters, and one from a school friend that Robinson had left leanings. Something he later withdrew.

AS opposed to the posters and President that all violent crimes are due to those with any left leaning and the Democrats ?

When it comes to Kirk`s wife my personal view, and as far as I see that of many here many others on the subject, was that her, "they" in reference to the shooting was a very dangerous remark that would only only encite matters and lead to further killings when there wasn`t a single shred of evidence to even suggest that Robinson acted other than alone.

I have to say MM, I do apprecate when you highlight the use and import of the constitutional amendment rights in the US.
You always manage to do so with pertinent examples rather than the legalese I sometimes drift into.

I think Charlie kirk had some offensive viewpoints and thats what a lot of posters here have been highlighting. That doesn't equate to supporting his killing. Its just giving a fuller picture of the man Charlie Kirk was.

I guess they are both scumbags in a sense. George through his actions and Charlie through words. I will clarify I did actually agree with about 30% of his topics opinions but he said some pretty scumbaggy things to be sure. Neither deserved to die but the reaction to one death Vs the other is a massive contrast. Not a good look for the radical left and their constant fear mongering. All of which is facilitated by a predominantly mainstream left leaning media.