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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,830 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,915 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    you didn't care about anything, you just cared about yourself and a grubby little cheque, and that's not right... have a bit of respect, or human decency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    If the rumours are true in relation to CB's new wage, why are we giving any tax money to independent broadcasters and media?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭Loblox


    He'll be doing the researching, working the cameras, interviewing the guests, don't forget the music, he'll be doing that as well, it'll be like Krusty in the Alkali flats!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.businesspost.ie/uncategorized/business-post-view-claire-byrnes-move-from-rte-to-newstalk-is-about-more-than-money/

    You'd have to wonder about media types.

    How to excuse greed. Newstalk could invest in 10 researchers and Journalist and build on these people, instead the choose Claire Byrne to retain Pat Kenny's audience while hoping that Pat Kenny can bring an audience to Weekends.

    At least they admit this isn't totally about "a new challenge".

    The writer seems to think that Byrne should have been given the view that she was "indispensable"… why? Should RTÉ treat her, or any of their stars, as they have done in the past, to baby them to their every need.

    Not only do you need money but Post believes you should be cherished. What a bizarre idea.

    The post says "This is not simply about filling a chair; it is about the symbolic loss of talent to the commercial sphere at a time when RTÉ can least afford further erosion."

    Seriously, you'd think the sun shone out of Claire and she was the shining light of RTÉ. When did this happen? I'd argue that when both Sean O'Rourke and then Claire Byrne took over from Pat Kenny it was simple as they put it about David McCullagh “keep calm and carry on”, and they both largely did it with dignity, until well the problems started to arise.

    O'Rourke when ever I heard him speak seemed perplexed by the scandal, he really wanted to whitewash it and not being fully part of RTÉ he really could not help, but when he got the opportunity he was quick to suggest it was a "nothing burger".

    While, Claire was clearly annoyed at the suggest that she works outside RTÉ and if she did what business would it be of anyones, she seemed to forget the Quiz Show she got after her chat show ended, which would be considered extra work.

    "The result is that Claire Byrne, once the future of RTÉ, is now the future of its rival."

    Claire has her own future she was never loyal to any one broadcaster, remember when she left TV3 for newstalk?

    The editor (I assume) ends with this pomposity

    In short: yes, money mattered. But so did strategy, ambition, and the instinct—common to anyone worth listening to—that one does not wish to remain forever in the service of an organisation that confuses decline with destiny.

    This is not to get at Claire, well done to her for getting the job in Newstalk. But IMO she's not as much of a loss to RTÉ Radio as many in the media are make out. In fact this is a "nothing burger".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    CB is a poor broadcaster, or I should say a poor journalist. She has improved since her time on Newstalk with Ivan. But she is not great and better suited to light entertainment magazine type stuff.

    David McCullagh is much better as a broadcaseter and a journalist. But the show should be Sarah McInerneys. She was a temp host for the slot before CB and was excellent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,830 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    I'm in total agreement here. Byrne is a terrible journalist.

    McInerney I consider one of RTE's best, but very underutilized. She should have gotten Claire Byrne's show, but I imagine some folks at RTE were afraid she'd ruffle the feathers of higher ups/ folks in government. Her interview with Ivana Bacik after Bacik was given the Labour leadership role was sublime. She took no nonsense, she took no crap, and she completely destroyed Ivana. Bacik has never recovered, and her tenure as Labour leader has never come back from that moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    This is what 100 k will get you


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,962 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Personally I'd have more respect if they gave us a few 'ANSWERS' rather than questions.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Still no word on who will present Liveline. What's taking RTE so long?

    It looks like the Dail will be back from the summer recess before the new presenter is revealed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    If you were to believe the press it is because of the exodus of "stars" from the broadcaster.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Exodus of stars lol

    Claire Byrne is leaving and Mary Wilson and Joe Duffy are retiring but I would not be surprised if Joe continues his TV religious show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Joe will be play a significant role in RTÉ 100 year celebrations. What will Sean O'Rourke do now, surely Mary Wilson will have to be given her own podcast.

    2026 Look forward to The Meaning of life | Insights with | and our new show Insightful Lives with

    .. guests such as Cecelia Ahern
    , John Boyne
    , Vougue Williams
    , Paul Howard
    , Marian Keyes
    , Doireann Garrihy
    , Andrea Corr and many more …

    And a two speical Insightful Lives where Mary Wilson interviews Joe Duffy and Sean O'Rourke.

    You can't keep RTÉ talent retired for too long….

    Soon enough RTÉ will have to employ a necromancer to bring back Gay Byrne and Gerry Ryan.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    'employ a necromancer to bring back Gay Byrne and Gerry Ryan'

    That's a programme that might be worth watching!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Lando Griffins OTHER HALF


    Jeeeeeezzz that is not the advert that was being talked about - i.e. the one with the plants?? Please tell me this didn't cost €100k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Lando Griffins OTHER HALF


    There should be an inquest into that along the lines of the bike shed. Holy mother of God. Someone with reasonable skills on a pc could have put that together in no time. Perhaps with the need of AI plants!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,830 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Cecelia 'just don't ask about the husband' Ahern.

    Gay Byrne used to get the most high profile guests in the world to want to appear on his shows, because he had that incredible profile.

    Joe Duffy would be lucky to get 'Linda from Lidl' to appear on anything he does. And that's not to crap on anyone working at Lidl, I'm just saying Joe Duffy doesn't get the 'high profile' guests.

    No matter how RTE tried to promote him, he was never Gay Byrne.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,962 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Never was it’s true, however, his retiral shows in sharp relief the lack of talent trying to take over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-style/people/2025/09/14/mike-murphy-it-should-have-been-the-rte-payments-scandal-not-the-ryan-tubridy-payments-scandal/

    I often think of posters on Boards.ie who say "So you telling me you wouldn't take the money if RTÉ offered it to you!", My reply and many others reply has always been "Of course I would, but I don't beleive RTÉ should have ever offered that money."

    The bauld Mike then goes on to say

    The truth of the matter is that I’d have taken the deal Tubridy took. I would have taken it on the basis that RTÉ came up with the idea to get the sponsor to pay the balance of his salary. As long as I was clear with the tax man and RTÉ were clear with it, then I’d go with it because I’m certainly not interested in discussing what salary I am earning and if you guys [RTÉ] make it public it’s your problem. So it should, in my view, have been the RTÉ Payments Scandal not the Ryan Tubridy Payments Scandal.

    1. As we all would
    2. Do we know that RTÉ did come up with the scheme, or if the idea came from Neol Kelly? But as Ryan pointed out he did not know anything about the deal. He actually pleaded ignorance on that front.
    3. As a top employee you know that for the past 25 years the government have asked for the details to be published, so actually its both yours and RTÉ's problem.
    4. It was the RTÉ payments scandal, Ryan happened to be part of it because of how they treated his payments.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,471 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Exactly. If you're not interested in discussing what salary you are earning don't take a job at a state broadcaster obliged to disclose such information.

    Can he not see the reason why it was done in that way was to avoid disclosing it and to allow under reporting of earnings… and that if it came to light it could impact his future career opportunities. So an entirely selfish reason not to engage in such shenanigans.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    KB4 been quite for a while and with the announcement that he might be in line for a pay jump, he doesn't want to be "presumptuous".

    Surely he'd have to ask the board for the pay rise and then they would consider it, or do we work in Ireland on the idea that you automatically consider the rise and then tell him "you know to get the best you must pay well".

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rte-director-general-kevin-bakhurst-tight-lipped-on-possibility-of-50000-salary-bump/a53610862.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭Dublin Calling


    There appears to be a hold up in announcing a new presenter for Live Line. As everything's now benchmarked against Kevin total enumeration (not Salary), his 50k Salary (+25% pension) increase might be the cause.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It would be interesting to see if a mix of presenters would do on Liveline, I wonder how the audience is currently standing up.

    BTW KB4 did say that there is nothing stopping RTÉ from reducing the required number of episodes presented by anyone presenter.

    They could have simple renewed Joe's contract for another year but with a reduction in episodes while farming out The Meaning of Life and increasing the number of episodes in that series. Giving him less from RTÉ and an extra mount for the TV series that is not covered by the RTÉ contract, and like with Claire Byrne and her quiz show isn't show in her RTÉ earnings.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I happened to go back to Ireland's Smartest… for no real reason. But a couple of note worthy parts to its production.

    While the series was produced by an Northern Ireland production company, almost half of the Question writers and verifiers live in Britain, the graphics was produced by a UK company and the composer of the music was also a British composer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    That show was filmed in Virgin Media's studios.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I see they have a new judge for DWTS and a new host.

    They basically got another 2fm presenter to present, the old presenter seems to be able to advertise baby ware and maternity ware, sure next she'll be advertising pensions!

    But LarBar did say he would be finding anyone outside Ireland … but the new Judge is from outside Ireland … ah well when you can't have Dermot O'Leary…


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    https://thecurrency.news/articles/202797/willie-oreilly-with-room-for-new-voices-rte-is-embracing-change/

    All good RTÉ Radio 1's forced new schedule and one successful foreign format. Sure give Tubs a gig.

    Willie should do a one on one debate with former Deputy Chair Ian Keogh, they can both tell us all how wonderful RTÉ is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It really is the same old stuff coming from RTÉ.

    For some reason The Head of Audio was doing multiple interviews across print media to put out the fire, they really think there is a fire to put out.

    She didn't say much and pretty much said the same as Jimbo Jennings and Dee Forbes.

    Meanwhile over in the Irish Times Laura Slattery, one of their business correspondents corrected herself about RTÉ comedy.

    “Comedy is a very tricky genre, not just for us,” he said then. “Most commercial broadcasters have pulled out of it, because it’s too hit and miss, and it’s expensive as well. But this should be part of our offering to audiences, and having the guaranteed level of funding over the next number of years helps us take these risks.”

    And now says

    This was in the context of the launch of Good Boy, a short-form, low-budget RTÉ Player sitcom starring Tony Cantwell, and the first RTÉ-developed sitcom in several years. The quote from Bakhurst followed a point I’d made, while warming up to something resembling a question, about sitcoms being “perceived as a tricky genre sometimes and maybe even particularly so for RTÉ”.To be unfunnily clear, his position was that, now RTÉ had secured its multiannual funding agreement, it would be able to invest in comedy. Licence-fee payers and the promises of the previous coalition would combine to finance RTÉ-disseminated laughs. Intentional ones.

    Sadly, my obligation to file somewhere in the region of my designated word count meant none of this made the published interview, but the gist was that RTÉ is keen to develop a comedy slate because the genre “can really punch through” on linear television “with a relatively low volume of hours” while also enjoying a long on-demand life.

    What this really means is that I will defend RTÉ to the hilt and rather than saying, RTÉ has never really tried doing comedy in the past it will now try to do comedy. (Indeed you'd have never guess that Good Boy was low budget short from comedy from her filed report, rather that it might actually get a broadcast if it is lucky… it wasn't… and it wasn't good).

    She oddly blames her editor in a roundabout way.

    It also means that what RTÉ want is a new comedy that they can repeat for the next 20 years.

    A scheme for comedy pilot episodes was also mooted.

    Imagine that a scheme for comedy pilot episodes has be mooted… https://www.screenireland.ie/news/rte-fis-eireann-screen-ireland-announce-four-successful-comedy-projects-to

    https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2020/1021/1172987-rte-launches-search-for-new-comedy-and-drama-series/

    In fairness to her the article is largely tongue in cheek, at least I hope it is. https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio/2025/10/18/rte-quest-to-find-the-next-derry-girls-young-offenders-or-mrs-browns-boys/

    Meanwhile the Sunday Times had a grave warning for RTÉ

    https://www.thetimes.com/world/ireland-world/article/rte-newstalk-battle-irish-radio-dominance-3fggrswzc

    Thing is that we've seen that exodus and really makes little difference to RTÉ, while Baure may get itself in the newspaper what areas of Baure are there to temp "talent" to? Unless they drop both their Lunch Time show and Moncrieff Baure has little to offer on their 2 stations. Other indpendents are too small and VMTV has one show to fill, with The Tonight Show, does anyone think that VMTV would go after Doireann to host either Ireland AM or The Six O'Clock Show?


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