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Would you visit USA in the current climate?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 charliemc


    A ukrainian gir was stabbed to death on light rail over there and nobody around her seemed to care.

    news.joshwho.net/p/black-man-stabs-white-ukrainian-refugee



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,421 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    first ive heard of it, and possible the same for all others, not all incidents make it onto media sources



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,760 ✭✭✭blackbox


    I've been to the USA several years ago but there is no way that I'd go now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,398 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Planning my 2026 trip at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭yagan


    Priced in Euros the US is actually in recession so it's certainly a great time to do some road trips, Aer Lingus are selling returns for under €400 which is actually cheaper than back during the last recession in 09/2010. Although even with a weakened USD I'm hearing hotel prices in places like Vegas and Florida have gotten really expensive as they're shuttering rooms and letting staff go to maintain profitability.

    Plus a retired relative who lives in Florida but summers in Ireland is extending their stay here as they said grocery prices are on a rip there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Where were all the gung ho gun heroes who claim the answer to a bad guy with a gun (or knife in this case) is more good guys with guns? It just goes to show how hollow their argument is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,406 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    Ya defo will head back there, nice country and nice people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,421 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    heard a similar story, a significant recession could be on the cards for the us next year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,678 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    I notice a number of posters mention Las Vegas favourably.

    I visited it once and found it truly awful, couldn't get out fast enough. But if you like being accosted by prostitutes on the street go ahead.

    Another point about the U.S. in general is how large parts of it are pedestrian unfriendly or even hostile.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,421 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    had a opportunity to go years ago, glad i turned it down, that level of destitute is disgusting, and an economy based on exploiting it, is just disturbing



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    So I take it you have never been and thus don't actually know what it's like?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭Mr Disco


    seems to me only the bed wetting geeks and weaks are the one too scared to visit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,421 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    no i havent, but theres been many documentaries done on the real damage that it has caused to many people, via the encouragement of gambling and other addictions, an economy based on the exploitation of extremely vulnerable people, and celebrated, and of course ive heard about the city via people that have been there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭yagan


    I think it's worth visiting once just to understand how god awfully hollow it is. As the Elvis song Viva Los Vegas says "if you see it once you'll never be the same again."

    At least you can walk up and down the strip to look at all the naff casinos with the mini Eiffel Tower, Pyramid, etc… but once you've done that there's nothing else. It really is where brain cells go to die before the body expires in Florida.

    I used it as a base for road trips like Grand Canyon but if I were planning road trips in that part of the country I'd avoid it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,282 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Christian rock is two lies for the price of one.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,282 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    deleted - hit quote on wrong post

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭yagan


    deleted

    Post edited by yagan on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,282 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    If you think that Ireland is any sort of dictatorship you're either incredibly misinformed or just taking the mick.

    The problem is the immense propaganda from the horrible media.

    No, the problem is that Trump and his supporters are just absolute cûnts.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,282 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    In a country of over 300 million people, exactly how many crime reports would you expect to make the news on the other side of the world?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,282 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Yeah I hit quote on the wrong post, deleted now.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Ceathran


    It's worse than a dictatorship. Fake elections in which all of the parties are identical. A media that hate the Ireland of the past and have wrecked everything that was good about the country and turned the place into a living hell. Political correctness everywhere. The worst health service in the world, the worst public transport system in the world, and a country that is morally bankrupt. Off topic somewhat, maybe, but people keep going on about the US being a dictatorship. Give me the US any day over this place. And I don't particularly like the US. I can't stand the tipping thing over there and I find the place to be very chaotic.

    It's definitely propaganda. All the identical newspapers and radio stations say the same thing every single day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,282 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    OK forget the other crap for a moment, we have one of the best life expectancies in the world so how does that correlate with your claim that we have the worst - literally THE worst - health system in the world?

    In what ways is the health system in Haiti or South Sudan superior to ours?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    A lot of loaded words and hyperbole in this post.

    The worst public transport system in the world? Have you been to the US outside of any major city? There’s often no bus service except for school buses and it’s too dangerous to walk anywhere because there’s no footpaths. Amtrak is awful because freight trains are given priority over them.

    I’ve seen a poster on here with a tagline of “Make Éire Great Again”. When was Ireland ever “great”? In the 80s when we had no jobs and women were still being effectively imprisoned for having a baby out of wedlock? (Although I could see the likes of Aontú and Maria Steen getting behind that again). Or is this about a time when we had very few black and brown people in the country?

    Don’t get me wrong, we have a lot of issues here, housing being the huge one. But to suggest we’re among the worst countries in the world is propaganda in itself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,762 ✭✭✭whippet


    just cancelled our December trip to NY and Florida - going to go to Italy instead. While I’ve always loved NY and try to get there every year myself and the family just decided to give it a miss this year - and that decision is purely around the political atmosphere there at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,398 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Did you go when Bush was murdering people in their thousands?

    Or when Obama when drone bombing civilians?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,560 ✭✭✭✭billyhead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Hang on. You think we have an unhealthy obsession with Trump and you went to visit Trump tower?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭yagan


    The difference now is the mask is off, the current president muses about genocide to make way for a holiday resort in Gaza.

    I have one US relative ask me "why don't those Gazans go back to where they came from?" like they were illegal Mexicans.

    I lived in the US when the troubles were still ongoing in Ireland and their news reports would give only the slightest shorthand of the issue.

    The western US led order is dead.

    I personally wouldn't go back there right now but with the exchange rate at the moment and cheap flights I would still say it's a good time for a driving holiday, especially those mid west scenic routes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,678 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    One of my main reasons for not wanting to visit the USA is that from the 1970s on it has become increasingly car-centric with little accommodation made for pedestrians. Also the need for health insurance.

    I'd never consider visiting Dubai for the same reason among others.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    You live in one of the most stable and prosperous countries in the world. Get over yourself.



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