Charlie Kirk.

Who are they?

The information is this was one lone gun man that acted alone, who will either spend the rest of his life incarcerated or will be executed.

Wrong. Absolutely nobody should be murdered.

A lot of those links are dead.

His main issue was the establishment of a permanent bureaucracy that overreached into people's lives and its effect on free speech. His claim that it created more division in the country rather than uniting the country, and put in place DEI and identity politics at the front and centre.

You are free to disagree with this of course, as I am, but the position is more nuanced.

Can’t see how it can be nuanced. It’s quite clear that Kirk’s unhappiness with the Civil Rights act was more racially motivated than anything.

It had nothing to do with bureaucracy, it was about ending racial segregation and dismantled Jim Crow segregation. Not sure what’s nuanced about that…perhaps it’s not at all.

The pearl clutching/shaming of people for simply not eulogising the man in the name of demonising “the left”(especially when theres no evidence of the shooter being left wing at all) is pretty pathetic tbh.

It’s no more tragic than any gun death that happens in the states, and it’s arguably not the most tragic shooting that day considering those poor high school kids.

I don’t wish anyone dead but he was happy to promote and profit from a system that will guarantee innocent people die through guns, so it’s hard for me to find much sympathy for him. People will go on dying preventable deaths over there any many will be much more tragic than this.

What’s more ironic, the posters who are trying to whitewash Kirk’s beliefs and legacy due to his death, simply don’t realise that if this was another political commentator, Kirk would be defending gun laws and still going on with his hateful beliefs.

His death doesn’t make him a saint, it’s a tragedy but you can still criticise the person.

The problem with all the talk about radicalism is that it's being cited most by those who are seeking to radicalise others. While I certainly would give a lot of leeway to a grieving wife, Charlie Kirk's wife has given a speech where she refers as many others have done to "they" killed Charlie. Other right leaning commentators and news media have also ran with this theme of Kirk having been killed by a faceless unspecific collection of people known as "the Left". This language is the foundational base of radicalism. A good radical movement needs an enemy — and the less specific that enemy is the more perpetual and wide-ranging that radical movement can become.

Of course, the irony is lost on many that a lot of people on the so-called Left of US politics have advocated for the notion that it should never have been so easy for someone to acquire and use the weapons used to kill Charlie Kirk and the children who were shot the same day. Charlie Kirk on the other hand is on record for saying that gun violence is a worthy price for gun rights — and he didn't have much sympathy as regards the political violence rained down on Palestinians every day.

None of this is to say he deserved to die, and above all his children did not deserve to lose their father. I don't believe in death penalties and I don't believe that bloodshed advances causes. But it is hard to accept the sincerity of certain people talking about the dangers of radicalism right now when everything they are saying seems designed to radicalise.

You are an amazingly insightful man you, having never met them, but have managed to figure out the motives and thoughts of Trump, Vance and Kirks wife on everything they are doing and thinking following Kirks assassination. I doubt his wife at this moment has any cogent thoughts on anything, you can say what you like about Kirk and people can make up their own minds on the thousands of videos he has with made people on the internet not just the soundbites. He loved his family I do agree with you though his wife shouldn't be filming anything right now. But I'm assuming you think they had a sham marraige and she is just another far right grifter?

Ahh right…. Being worried about black lesbian surgeons operating on him is somewhat nuanced and doesn't create division ……….. got it

Is this a serious question?