Israel/Palestine Thread

I read a report that the Israelis were able to evade Qatar's entire defense systems. This would be possible as i believe the Americans give slightly inferior stuff to arab allies so the Israelis always have the qualitive edge militarily. On the other hand it's plausible that the Qataris let it happen so as to avoid escalating things further.

The fact he didnt know until it was too late makes him look very weak and destroys his image as the reliable dealmaker who gets things done.

He has been further humiliated by Israeli officials coming out and saying they'll strike Qatar again if necessary, which is directly defying Donnie after he declared there would be no further strikes on Qatari soil.

I am beginning to think it's not just Putin that has dirt on Donnie

The sad thing is, this crazy chaotic and what seems duplicitous US treatment of its allies will just move countries closer to China, which could have awful consequences on Ireland (we mean far less to the Chinese pshyche than to the American one).

Also, another nail in the coffin for international law. Those negotiations in Doha could have been happening in any neutral country - Paris, London, Dublin. Qatar was facilitating peace talks on its soil - anywhere could have done this.

Does that mean Israel could have bombed Paris, London or Dublin to "take out Hamas"? If a building was bombed in Dublin killing a dozen Irish people (as it seems to have done to Qataris), because Hamas members may or may not have been in the vicinity, would the clowns on here still be saying it is a good thing?

If Israel aren't sanctioned to the strictest degree, what is to stop any country now bombing civilians areas under the pretense of killing terrorists? China send a missile to Europe to get what they deem to be a terrorist? Russia bomb a house in Poland under that pretense? The precedent has been set, and the longer this goes on, the more dangerous the world gets

Gavin is implying that the bombing of civilians in Gaza was acceptable up to a point. Were 30,000 dead still okay or when was his line crossed. Not a good look for his chances of election. Suggestion that other military campaigns by Israel are acceptable.

Jim Gavin

An own goal already:

"It's unconscionable that the bombing is still taking place when I believe that the military objectives have probably been reached for that military campaign."

Yes, i believe the US could easily have stopped it given their assets in the country, but they were never going to attack their closest ally. This all begs the question are there people in the US military and intelligence community working against Donnie, or is Donnie just lying through his teeth to save face with the Qataris even if in doing so it makes him look very weak?

Any critical reporting from RTE journalists on events in Gaza and the West Bank will be immediately rubbished by Israel

So what?

Reports are already dismissed as "antisemitism" by Israel, so it's neither here nor there whether they continue that stance.

Bravo RTE and Ireland.

Israel already dismissed RTE's reporting on what they're doing in Gaza. RTE and Ireland pulling out of Eurovision won't make any difference to that.

So yeah, so what.

RTE and Ireland are both correct to make the a stand on this.

We all need to stop being so afraid of Trump and Israel.

Israelis take any actions like this to be an attack on Jews and it makes them even more determined that what they're doing is right because the whole world is antisemitic. It's a truly sick society.

I'm very proud of this small gesture by RTE.

I dunno. The only way this hurts us is if the USA stay in the path it's on for the next few years. I don't think that will be the case, unless Trump does manage to set up a dictatorship in the USA, in which case all our US jobs here are f*cked anyway.

The truth will out about this genocide, and it will feed into the pshyche of citizens across the western world. There will be massive resentment against Israel, and against the USA if they continue to sponsor it without sanction. I think alot of politicians who facilitated this will become unelectable in future. Taking a moral stand may not be as disastrous as you think it is.

A think a few countries are going to find this out soon enough, maybe Israel also.

"...it may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."

• former US Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger

the Israeli air force are perfectly capable of refueling their own aircraft.