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Israel/Palestine Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,943 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    You need to read up on the "settler" movement and their motivation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    The people who say Israel left Gaza like it was some great concession by Israel, but them omit 20 years of blockade by land, air and sea are being disingenuous. That blockade started to punish Gaza for voting for Hamas. It would be like blockading West Belfast for voting for Sinn Féin.

    The blockade created the conditions for radicalisation, as do the settlements and so called punitive raids before this war and still in the West Bank.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Where to start…

    I'll stick to just one quote and avoid the pure rubbish in the rest of your post:

    Moreover I haven't seen a single visibly starving Palestinian who didn't already have serious pre existing health conditions. Many of the photos are cropped to remove healthy family members from the picture. And even then, there are a LOT of seriously chubby-looking Gazans complaining about having no food.

    Even after famine has been independently confirmed in Gaza and there are numerous reports of over 300 deaths by starvation, you come out with this utterly disgusting line. I doubt you're a forensic scientist with access to detailed medical records so enough with the lies.

    You should hang your head in shame - but I know you won't because you clearly have some kind of fake reality going on in your mind undoubtedly after swallowing the Hasbara hook, line and sinker.

    But do of course feel free to keep posting your poison and belittling children who starved to death - or whatever ever else makes you feel this good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,015 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    Oh I'm well aware. Israeli settlers were removed from Gaza by force, by their own government.

    That doesn't contradict what I said. In fact it proves my point. You get extremists everywhere. But the fact that there is no longer a thriving peace movement in Israel is because Hamas and other Palestinian militant groups killed it. Literally, in some cases. Look up Vivian Silver or Oded Lifshitz.

    And there was never any equivalent to that peace movement in Gaza - only a tiny number of people, some of whom in the end actively betrayed their opposite numbers in Israel by giving information to Hamas about the homes and people they knew personally in the kibbutzim. Look up Batya Holin. Though I'm sure you won't.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Powerful opinion piece in Haaretz

    "Trump is basically offering Hamas worse conditions than what the Witkoff plan offered to halt the conquest of Gaza City. Everyone assumes that Hamas is trembling at the thought of Israel conquering the city and prepared to fold in order to prevent it. No one dares raise the question – and what if it's not? … After the horrific October 7 massacre, it was diplomatically and politically isolated in Europe and in the Arab world. Israel's reckless behavior revived it. Hamas has an advantage over Israel, both diplomatically and in people's minds. Conquering Gaza City plays into its hands. Israel will lose this campaign. Everybody knows that. And no one cares"

    Chaim Levinson



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,015 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    How much do you know about Sinn Fein? FFS

    If Sinn Fein had EVER organised a murderous attack on a music concert in east Belfast and killed dozens of Protestants in their beds, you might have the very beginnings of a tiny point. But they didn't.

    And Christ knows, I'm no Sinn Fein supporter. But at least I grew up there - and I'm not rewriting history to make it fit some completely unrelated events two thousand miles away either.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭Miniegg


    They seem willing to be sacrificed - all in hopes of destroying Israel. 

    One of the most disgusting sentences I have read in this thread.

    You have absolutely no idea of the suffering, torture and torment these people are going through, the figurative mountains of dead innocent men women and children, all at the hateful hands of those you support.

    And you tell us it is not only Gazans fault they are suffering what is a genocide, but are actually sacrificing themselves and their children.

    If you are genuinely so warped and consumed by hatred that you think that is actually true, then I pity you. But if it is an attempt to troll or be edgy - that is an absolutely disgraceful comment, and you will get no luck for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    A very powerful editorial from Haaretz:

    "The expulsion of two million people is not a plan; it is a war crime.

    The fact that U.S. President Donald Trump has fallen in love with the illusion of population transfer and dreams of building an American riviera in the Gaza Strip and employing the Israel Defense Forces as a security company does not give it moral or legal validity.

    Israel cannot afford to destroy peace with Egypt.

    Instead of creating another front with the country with whom peace is a strategic asset, and which also paved the way to the agreements that followed, Netanyahu must end the current fronts" – Haaretz Editorial



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Spain is antisemitic… <rolls eyes>

    And the irony of Saar accusing Sanchez of deflecting from corruption charges when alleged War Criminal #1 (at large) who is his boss, is actually committing Genocide in order to avoid corruption charges.

    Spain will block Israel-bound arms shipments from its ports and airspace, boost aid to the PA and UNRWA, ban goods from settlements, and bar those involved in what PM Pedro Sanchez qualified as "genocide" from entering the country. Sanchez, in a public address, said the steps aim to pressure Netanyahu to ease Palestinian suffering in Gaza.

    Israel's Foreign Minister Saar called the measures "antisemitic" and accused Sanchez of trying to divert attention from his domestic corruption scandals. He said Israel would bar entry to two Spanish ministers. Following Sa'ar's remarks, Spain's Foreign Ministry recalled its ambassador in Israel for consultations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,943 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    They were removed because it was felt that the resources would be better used in the West Bank, Arab East Jerusalem. My point was that the "settlers" aren't carrying on the way they do because of external threats to Israel. Rather they are - in the main - motivated by religous fanaticism, believing that the areas are theirs by god given right. Others are attracted as they are granted tax breaks and various benefits for moving there (a practice specifically outlawed under the Geneva convention).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭Miniegg


    If Sinn Fein had EVER organised a murderous attack on a music concert in east Belfast and killed dozens of Protestants in their beds, you might have the very beginnings of a tiny point. But they didn't.

    No, the blockade happened long before October 7th, surely you know this. The posters point is the blockade proceeded that event.

    Being from Northern Ireland, do you think the rise of Sinn Fein happened because of the awful circumstances many Northern Irish Catholics / Nationalists found themselves in, or were they all just rabid English hating maniacs willing to sacrifice themselves and their children to defeat the British?

    That is how you paint the Gazans. You told us they willingly sacrifice their children to "defeat Israel". They are not rationale humans to you. You paint the worst of them as the norm - that can be done in any society, usually to justify crimes against said people, and in any society it is a lie.

    Do you think, had the Unionists / British corralled all Nationalists into say, West Belfast, stole their homes and their land in the rest of NI, stripped them of all their rights, decided what came in and out of their enclave, how much food each person got, decided on a whim if they could have electricity or clean water on any given day, regularly committed warcrimes on them causing many times the violence of Bloody Sunday or Ballymurphy with impunity (and on and on i.e. far more extreme than what actually happened), that an IRA attack on a music festival would be completely unfathomable to occur? If it did, would that mean all Nationalist forced into that situation are animals and deserving of slaughter?

    Lastly - would you be ok with your family (who I assume have nothing to do with terrorism) being wiped out because of the actions of the IRA, and some sycophant in the other side of the world refusing to blame the people who killed them, and deeming that they had all sacrificed themselves, reducing the crimes against them to a self inflicted inevitability?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    A sign of how much respect Israel has lost internationally is the minimal coverage of the bus attack in Jerusalem today. Years ago this would have been in the headlines for many days with western leaders rushing to offer their condolences.

    Now it feels like it is already old and forgotten news. The demise of France's PM has contributed to the lack of coverage but the genocide is the main reason. Everyone is sick of Israel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Palestine Action Germany has broken into and damaged an Elbit factory. Are they now a multi-national enterprise :)

    "BREAKING: Palestine Action Germany break into Elbit Systems' weapons factory in Ulm, to dismantle the tools used to commit genocide in Gaza," read a tweet from the account "palactionde", which is the first and only post from the account. International accountability actions are increasing.

    "The Ulm factory, owned by Israel's biggest weapons producer, makes military drone equipment and target acquisition software."

    A video accompanying the post appears to show several members of the group breaking into an office building and destroying equipment, including computer hardware and furniture.

    Next up, palactionie for Ireland then palactiones for Spain, and palactionfr etc.?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    The murder of 6 innocent Israeli civilians is horrific and has been widely and roundly condemned as it should be. And may they rest in peace.

    The problem for Israel is that their constant belligerence in their words and actions culminating in tactics last seen 80 years ago tells the whole story for the worldwide general public.

    The public are not stupid - they also see the tired retort of Israel to any critisism levelled at them - "antisemitic" - as exactly that. Tired and without meaning.

    That the Spanish are accused of antisemitism because they are sanctioning the supply of genocidal weaponry is another example that further alienates Israel from a worldwide public. A public that has been watching for nearly two years.

    Many will have done the background reading if events preceding Oct 7th and they now clearly see Israel for what it is - a state that has illegally stolen land from Palestinians, ignored every one of the hundreds of UN sanctions against it and is now executing the final solution.

    And they are sick the the stomach of this warmongering murder machine who have no compunction in building concentration camps and starving civilians to death.

    Yes, the public will have pity for the six Israelis who were murdered today and they will condemn it.

    But they will have no pity for a Genocidal State - and they will condemn that State all the more vehemently.

    Some posters here argue that Hamas are sacrificing its own civilians. Perhaps the public see today's atrocity as an identical case - Israel sacrificing more of its own. They killed scores of Israelis on Oct 7th, they abandoned the hostages more than a year ago and they refuse to negotiate. If Israel had not reneged on the ceasefire last March, perhaps those 6 Israelis would not have been murdered today.

    This Israeli Govt is dragging its people into the depths of hell whether they like it or not.

    The irony is palpable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I believe there the vast majority of posters to and readers of this thread think the same. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

    I find it utterly incomprehensible how broken a mind has to be to post words like that - and think it's normal.

    Who could possibly be so clearly devoid of morals and humanity?

    And that poster has posted equally damnable comments today which have been called out.

    Damaged indeed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    Sept 9 (Reuters) - The Global Sumud Flotilla for Gaza said on Tuesday that one of its main boats was struck by a drone in Tunisian waters, though all six passengers and crew are safe.The Portuguese-flagged boat, carrying the flotilla's steering committee, sustained fire damage to its main deck and below-deck storage, the GSF added in a statement.

    Greta Thunberg was on this boat.

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    Tunisia say that no drones were detected!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭StarryPlough01


    International media reports... Below are some stats:

    Trump issued ‘Last Warning’ to Hamas to accept a ceasefire deal

    Hamas says it welcomes any move that ends the war and results in complete withdrawal of Israeli forces

    Hamas approved ceasefire proposal from mediators in AUGUST, which Israel has not responded to

    United Nations says more than 500,000 Palestinians are enduring CATASTROPHIC starvation

    Since May 2025, at least 2,430 Palestinians have been killed trying to get [meagre portions] food mostly near Gaza Humanitarian Foundation sites

    At least 140 children among 393 have died of starvation in Gaza

    Gaza Health Ministry reports Israeli attacks have killed 64,522 in Gaza since October 2023

    UN Human Rights Chief says more than 42,000 have been displaced by Israeli demolitions in occupied West Bank since October 2023

    At least 248 media workers have been killed in Gaza since October 2023

    IDF bombed 2 more high-rise buildings on Monday

    Hamas discussing US 'ideas' for Gaza ceasefire after Trump's 'last warning'

    9 hours ago
    David Gritten BBC News and Rushdi Abualouf Gaza correspondent, in Istanbul
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0rxl7jwwpo

    “Hamas says it has received "some ideas" from the US through mediators on how to reach a Gaza ceasefire agreement.

    “The Palestinian armed group said it was discussing how to develop the ideas, noting that it was ready to release its 48 remaining hostages in Gaza in return for a "clear" declaration ending the war.

    A Palestinian official told the BBC the US plan would see the hostages freed in the first 48 hours of a 60-day truce in exchange for Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails and good-faith negotiations on a permanent ceasefire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭StarryPlough01


    My sincere apologies,

    The boards.ie software carried over a copy and paste 'hidden' table format from Wikipedia on Bezalel Smotrich's ministries. See below:

    Smotrich's Ministerial roles:

    2022 to present: Minister of Finance

    2022 to present: Minister in the Defense Ministry

    I'll save to view how it looks so far (it will still retain the table formatting, but I can fill it in with another news item.

    Press Release: “Why we are sailing to Gaza on the Global Sumud Flotilla”

    “We sail to sustain hope. To lose hope is to give up on the people of Gaza and surrender them to an evil regime.”

    By Zukiswa Wanner Award-winning writer and cultural activist, and Jared Sacks Activist and writer based in Cape Town

    7 Sep 2025

    ....
    “On June 9, Israeli forces intercepted the Madleen vessel carrying humanitarian aid in international waters. A little more than a month later, on July 25, the Israeli occupation forces intercepted the Handala, another ship carrying supplies, about 70 nautical miles (130km) from Gaza, again in international waters.

    “While we were able to ensure that the activists on board returned home, some endured physical assaults and trauma at the hands of the Israeli military forces, which constitute crimes and need to be investigated. Apartheid Israel prevented the much-needed food and medicines on board from reaching Gaza, continuing its medieval siege, which amounts to a crime against humanity.

    STARRY: ^ It’s welcome news that all the 21 unarmed civilians on board the ‘Handala’ returned home (2 journalists ,a nurse, medical doctors, lawyers, a cook, parliamentarians...). Their detention was unlawful.

    Israeli Military illegally boarded the vessel, under the cloak of darkness, in international waters 40 nautical miles from Gaza on 26 July (outside Israeli maritime authority). Handala Freedom Flotilla was expected to enter Gaza territorial waters in the early hours of 27 July.

    My resources:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_2025_Gaza_Freedom_Flotilla

    July 26, 2025
    https://freedomflotilla.org/2025/07/26/israeli-military-attacks-handala-in-international-waters/

    STARRY: Once a Palestinian Statehood is recognised, its territorial waters is under its sovereignty.

    UN Link: https://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/part2.htm

    STARRY: 147 of 193 member states of United Nations have formally recognised Palestine as a sovereign state. Australia, France, Malta, San Marino and Belgium are impending recognition.

    Kindred spirits on the thread have mentioned Hind Rajab (and members of her family including her 14 year old cousin Layan).

    You will recall in news articles at the time, Israeli Military blamed Hamas for the executions, but it was later reported that the Forensic Architecture investigative team working with Earshot found that the firing range ballistically and/or forensically examined in call exceeds that of the Hamas' AK-47 rifles. (Refer more accurately to The Cradle link. below)

    'Investigation confirms Israeli tank killed six-year-old Hind Rajab'
    'An Israeli tank gunner unleashed 355 bullets on the car carrying Hind and her relatives, knowing they were inside it'

    JUN 23, 2024

    https://thecradle.co/articles-id/25580

    https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/the-killing-of-hind-rajab

    “When gunfire is captured by a recording device, there are two distinct sounds that are typically audible. First, the sound of the bullet traveling at supersonic speed. Second, the blast from the muzzle of the gun reaching the recording device at the speed of sound. While the bullet sounds akin to a whip cracking, the muzzle blast is a low-frequency thud. Investigators at Earshot distinguished these two sounds in the recording and used the interval between them to determine the distance between the shooter and the recording device.”

    The ISRAELI TANK was determined to be 13–23 metres away from the car:

    https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/the-killing-of-hind-rajab

    "Earshot found that with the minimum registered interval of 24 milliseconds, this tank would have to have been positioned just 13 metres away from the car. With the maximum interval of 40 milliseconds, the tank would have still been only 23 metres away from the car. This analysis suggests that the tank had to be positioned within close range (13–23 metres) of the car when it fired the shots that killed Layan. At such proximity, it is not plausible that the shooter could not have seen that the car was occupied by civilians, including children.

    Forensic Architecture
    The Killing of Hind Rajab

    https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/the-killing-of-hind-rajab

    "Working closely with journalists from Al Jazeera’s Fault Lines, Forensic Architecture collaborated with Earshot to examine the circumstances surrounding the killing of Hind Rajab, her four cousins, her aunt and uncle, and the two paramedics who came to her rescue.

    Our investigation sought to answer the following questions:

    "Where were the Israeli military vehicles located the day that Hind’s car was attacked? From what position and proximity was Hind’s 15-year-old cousin Layan killed after being connected by phone to Palestine Red Crescent dispatchers? Would it have been possible for the shooter to see Layan before killing her? What type of munition was used? From what position and direction was the ambulance shot? Could answers to these questions help us to identify the perpetrators of the shootings?

    Update 28.06.2024

    "The findings of Forensic Architecture and Earshot in the case of Hind Rajab were presented in the US House of Representatives by congresswoman Rashida Tlaib on 28 June 2024. The link to FA’s investigation was entered into the congressional record alongside the investigation’s major findings.
     

    Starry: "The bodies of Hind and her six relatives were found inside their vehicle, a Kia Picanto. The state of the vehicle was documented by journalists on the ground following the withdrawal of Israeli forces from the area twelve days after the car was attacked.".

    ^ I know that model of car. It's a small city car. Bear in mind that it was riddled with bullets by an israeli tank gunner. Two Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS) medics who tried to rescue Hind were also killed.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭StarryPlough01


    Inside Story - 8 Sep 2025

    Inside Story Presenter: Adrian Finighan: “Army raids in the West Bank, demolitions and attacks, including killings by settlers, continue as if it’s the norm. Aggressive plans for more illegal settlements and to force more Palestinians from their land have become a central policy of the Israeli government. All of this is illegal under international law, but continues with the support of the US as the world watches on." ....

    Starry: First, there is a report from Joel Evans before Adrian Finighan talks with his guests: Journo Evans says: “Since Israel’s Far Right government came into power at the end of 2022, focus on new settlements and stealing Palestinian land has intensified. During Israel’s genocide in Gaza, the number of settler attacks on Palestinians and illegal outposts in the occupied West Bank have rocketed.

    “More than 1,000 Palestinians have been killed in the occupied West Bank, this includes 199 Children. Around 10,000 Palestinians have been injured. And, as of September 1, 2025, around 1,100 have been detained.
    ....

    Itamar Ben-Gvir and Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich have played a prominent role in the Israeli government's aggression, with Smotrich unveiling a proposal under which Israel would annex 82% of the occupied West Bank.

    UNICEF August 27, 2025
    https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/child-casualties-west-bank-skyrocket-past-nine-months
    "NEW YORK, 22 July 2024 – A total of 143 Palestinian children have been killed in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, since October last year, a spike of nearly 250 per cent compared to the preceding nine months, during which 41 Palestinian children were killed.
    ....
    The casualties have been reported in 10 out of 11 governorates in the West Bank, with more than half of the killings taking place in Jenin, Tulkarm, and Nablus. These areas have seen an increase in large and militarized law enforcement operations over the past two years, indicating a shift in intensity and scope.

    August 27, 2025
    https://theconversation.com/gaza-civilian-death-toll-outpaces-other-modern-wars-263685

    “Using Gaza health ministry statistics, the UN says more than 62,000 people have subsequently been killed in Gaza since Israel launched its military campaign against Hamas. An additional 1,000 Palestinians have been killed in the West Bank.

    “How dangerous is the situation in the occupied West Bank? | Inside Story”
    ^ A transcript is available

    https://www.aljazeera.com/video/inside-story/2025/9/8/how-dangerous-is-the-situation-in-the-occupied-west-bank

    Presenter: Adrian Finighan
    Guests:
    Xavier Abu Eid Political analyst and former adviser to the Palestine Liberation Organization’s negotiating team
    Yossi MekelbergSenior consulting fellow at Chatham House and professor of international relations at the University of Roehampton
    Milena AnsariPalestinian lawyer and researcher at Human Rights Watch in occupied East Jerusalem



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,170 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Starmer and Herzog are being coy as to whether they will meet which means they probably will. It would be interesting to know what pressure Herzog will bring to bear to try and head off recognition of Palestine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,170 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Every time the Americans think they have a deal Israel turns it down and then the Americans have to hide their embarrassment and blame Hamas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    @StarryPlough01

    @volchitsa will be along shortly to claim Hind Rajab could never have been in a Kia Picanto with five other Gazans. It never happened - it couldn't happen - they're all too fat.


    And even then, there are a LOT of seriously chubby-looking Gazans complaining about having no food.

    Red velvet cake anyone?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭greyday


    just watching LA 92 which is about the riots caused by the brutal beating of Rodney King at the hands of the police, it gives an insight why America backs a genocidal Israeli government, it’s uncanny how similar the language used by Israeli people about Palestinians is to language used by white Americans about coloured people, leopards and spots come to mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    The LA Holocaust Museum has deleted a post that "Never Again applies to all people"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,580 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    It's akin to someone saying they saw chubby Jewish kids in Germany after world war 2, therefore there was no starvation and ill treatment of Jews. Also claiming the pictures of emaciated jews were down to pre existing medical conditions. Pro Israelis would be outraged and going to town on people who tried to suggest such things, yet it's ok for some of them to express hate filled and bigoted views to the point where they denies crimes against humanity. The irony is they essentially hold the same dehumanising views as Hamas do towards Israelis; there are no innocents on the other side. This is how we get to the stage where bad actors can justify committing atrocities against the other like shooting six Israeli civilians dead in Jerusalém, and a tank operator firing over 300 times into a car with a young child in it. These people and their supporters are utter scumbags .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,986 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Moreover I haven't seen a single visibly starving Palestinian who didn't already have serious pre existing health conditions.

    So you're over in Gaza are you verifying that everyone is starving has a serious pre existing health condition?

    How have you verified this? Or are you just spouting nonsense for some strange reason to defend a genocidal regime?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,294 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Imagine the holocaust museum is being called antisemitic, lol. Maybe it's khamas too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    If posters where to follow the example of @volchitsa, this would be considered a totally acceptable post - which it clearly isn't:

    "Saw the photo of the Israeli hostage being driven around Gaza City the other day. He looked well. Neatly dressed, nice haircut, freshly shaved and a grin on his face. He was well fed, skin was nice and clear with the hint of a tan. He was clearly very happy. Hamas are taking very good care of the hostages so there's nothing for the Hostage Families or Israel to worry about at all."

    The hypocrisy of the pro-Israelis you correctly point out and has been a common theme here. "The Genocide in Gaza is well overdue and those Palestinians deserve everything they get. But how dare those terrorist scumbags murder 6 Israelis". It is astonishing that anyone can simultaneously hold both of those views - but as we all know, it is not surprising at all. Utterly depraved and disgusting but not surprising.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    We've seen this multiple times. We've had posters here making claims that suggest they are forensic scientists, legal experts in criminal law of multiple countries, polyglots and even Police Ombudsman experts.

    Its all distraction, deflection, smoke and mirrors - they have zero credibility, they have zero corroborated evidence to support their stance yet they hang on to anything by their fingernails that appears to justify their depraved attachment and investment in the murder of innocent civilians.

    All the lies about beheaded and microwaved babies, debunked. Foetus cut from a mother's womb - debunked. Serving of Red Velvet Cake in Khan Younis - debunked

    Execution of Israeli hostages by IDF - corroborated; Hannibal Directive leading to IDF shredding scores of Israelis - corroborated; 15 medics executed by IDF who lied through their teeth - corroborated; Intent to commit Genocide - corroborated; Famine in Gaza - corroborated; Journalists targeted and executed by IDF - corroborated; IDF anally raping a Palestinian prisoner - corroborated; IDF looting and stealing from Gazans - corroborated; IDF executing those waiting in line to get water and food - corroborated. Little girl and two medics shredded by a Merkava Battle Tank - corroborated.

    Its a severely damaged person that comes here and posts their justification for anything Israel is doing in Gaza. They are of course entitled to do so and the tag-team combinations will continue to post lies and Hasbara. And they will continue to be exposed as liars.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Anybody know what "civilian sanctions" are and how they're going to be enforced on innocent people?

    "It has typically been Israeli policy to demolish the homes of Palestinians accused of terror attacks, in what it says is an effort to deter others.

    Israel's defence minister, Israel Katz, has now instructed the "imposition of civilian sanctions" on the gunmen's relatives.

    They will also apply to residents of the villages where they lived - Qatanna and Al Qubeiba."



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