Israel/Palestine Thread

A 4000 year old city being erased.

I see. It still doesnt excuse Israel committing war crimes and crimes against humanity. No more so than me pointing out that Iranian scientists are highly regarded in the scientific community worldwide gives Iran a free pass for supporting Hamas. Terrorising civilians is wrong whether its Hamas or the IDF doing it. You can only bring yourself to condemn the former while engaging in continuous deflection/ whataboutery to absolve the IDF and Israeli Government for their crimes.

The time to do that was decades ago. What Israel is doing in Palestine isn't new.

https://x.com/History__Speaks/status/1964486292827492808?t=hVsZGG9Jcr2uKHHm3nxNOg&s=19

You couldn't make this up...

The LA Holocaust Museum had to take down a social media post saying genocides could never happen again to anyone, not just including Jews as it didn't represent what's happening in Gaza.

Therefore genocides against everyone is bad, except genocides against Palestinians. It would seem the Holocaust Museum seem to be OK with some Holocausts....

I saw some of the posts they were getting on their social media via Reddit, they were basically being accused of anti-Semitism, it's unbelievable.

World leader in killing journalists, that's for sure.

Unparalleled.

So “never again” only applies to Jews, They really keep showing us what they are.

Well, let me get out my tiny violin to mourn the demise of factory which profits from death and destruction.

Personally, I think one less weapons manufacturing facility is a good thing, but that's me. But don't be too concerned, I'm sure there'll be another to fill the void for you.

Well this is it. Many months ago I came into this thread not having a clue about what was going on in the middle east - months before I first posted.

It became pretty clear pretty quickly reading posters like your good self what side of the argument was posting facts, backing up viewpoints and trying to make an effort to tell people what is going on, and which side was sprouting illogical, hateful nonsense whilst dodging all difficult questions put to them. It has made me question nearly all media I consume now, and those that are put into our collective governments to lead us.

I genuinely thought the western world had changed tack in the last 50 or so years - this is showing the whole thing up as verging on farcical.

Before anyone sneers me, I realise I was naive :)

I genuinely can't understand how this killing is still going on, and even how far gone our neighbors in the UK and US have become in all their leading parties.

Making Israel compromise is a big win. Netanyahu and the owner of the cycling team are buddies and Netanyahu involved himself personally in the dispute. Just before he did it, the owner said he would never remove the word Israel from the team name :)

International Desk (EFE).- Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu congratulated the Israel-Premier Tech team and its owner, Sylvan Adams, on Friday “for not giving in to hatred” during the Vuelta a España, where there have been protests against the Israeli team’s participation in the cycling race.

“Great job to Sylvan and Israel’s cycling team for not giving in to hate and intimidation. You make Israel proud!” Netanyahu said on Twitter.

Before anyone sneers me, I realise I was naive :)

I can't speak for everyone but I am not sneering at you and never have, and I know some of the other regulars on the thread wouldn't either. Without going on about it, my educational background means I have a lot of knowledge on politics, domestic and international (particularly the Middle East and the Muslim world more generally, along with having actually been in some of these places), as well as public international law so despite my often crass posting style I know that I know more than most of those I'm bickering with. Others have no reason to know things I know but the fact that you were willing to listen and learn means you are in no way naive.

We literally have people posting on this thread who, despite all evidence to the contrary presented to them, are passively or actively supporting and condoning, crimes against humanity, and to top it off are so spineless they won't even address or admit what they are doing.

I often wonder how many of the Pro Israeli posters here have ever been to the West Bank. If I recall correctly Sheepysheep had plans to go while he was in Israel. I ask because i also wonder would they still stand over their posts if they were confronted with the reality of what it's like to live there for many Palestinians.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/07/palestinians-petition-uk-legal-violations-last-century

A group of Palestinians will serve a legal petition asking the UK to take responsibility for what they call “serial international law violations”, including war crimes committed during the British occupation of Palestine from 1917 to 1948, the consequences of which it says still reverberate today.

Among the petitioners is the 91-year-old philanthropist Munib al-Masri, who was shot in the leg by British soldiers when he was 13.