Advertisement
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
If we do not hit our goal we will be forced to close the site.

Current status: https://keepboardsalive.com/

Annual subs are best for most impact. If you are still undecided on going Ad Free - you can also donate using the Paypal Donate option. All contribution helps. Thank you.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.

Configure TP-Link Deco device as a Wi-Fi Router on Eir FTTH (F3000)

  • 21-09-2024 02:51PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7


    Hi, this is to provide guidance to anyone who has, or is considering, installing a TP-Link Deco mesh router (in my case Deco BE65/BE9300) as a direct replacement to the Eir supplied F3000 fibre box.

    Plug the Ethernet RJ-45 terminated cable from the fibre termination box into any WAN capable Ethernet port of the router.

    Configure the Deco router via the Deco smartphone app with the following settings:

    Operation Mode: Wi-Fi Router (default)
    IPv4: Manual Configuration...
    Internet Connection Type: PPPoE
    Username: eircom@eircom.net
    Password: broadband1
    DNS Address: Auto
    Advanced: Not used
    MTU Size: 1480 (default)
    IPv6: Auto Configuration
    IPTV/VLAN: Enabled
    ISP Profile: Custom
    Internet VLAN: On
    VLAN ID: 10
    VLAN Priority: 0
    IPTV VLAN: Off

    Note that with these routers, initial DHCP for LAN clients will likely not function until an internet connection has established.



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,738 ✭✭✭amadablam


    Sorry for digging this one up but I got the BE65 today and using the app I cannot get it to work.

    Did you run the rj45 direct to the BE65 or through the eir modem?

    App doesn't allow me to turn off IPTV/vlan either.

    I've tried everything and Just can't get it to connect to the internet. :(

    EDIT: I got this sorted this evening.

    Weird solution,I tried a different unit from the three pack and it worked perfectly first thing.

    All three are up and running and coverage is excellent!

    Post edited by amadablam on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭The Ayatolla


    this is a late bump but having the same issue.

    Tried four separate Deco M5s but no luck.

    Using PPPOE

    eir@eir.ie / broadband1

    VLAN ID =10 / Priority =0

    I get a solid red light on the Deco.

    Any ideas 🤯



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Change the internet connection type to Dynamic IP. Report back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭The Ayatolla


    Will Dynamic IP work if I connect straight to the Fibre ONT box? I thought it would at least need the PPPOE settings?



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    With Eir, you’re always connecting straight to the ONT. My neighbour is with Eir, I have her Deco connected to direct the ONT with Dynamic IP set.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 GMam


    Hi There, So we recently had NBI installed in the area and made the move from Imagine Satellite BB to Eir Fibre.
    Have been using the Deco E4 1200 successfully with Imagine but since Eir is in it has been intermittant solid red lights and no internet.(I can reboof and turn off and on and issue will work for a while before going again. Wifi is fine when connected to the eir modem but the range is really poor so the problem the deco was solving is no longer working. I've been through every trouble shoot and was on with TPLink today and they basically said the issue must be the modem becasue the Deco did work (which it will, for 15 mins or an hour, before dropping off).

    Thats a long way of asking will a direct connection to the box on the wall (the ONT?) help my issue?

    If you're read this far - I commend you!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 GMam


    So update to my last post, i've now configured the Deco (DE4) which is pretty basic, as the router, instead of the Eir F3000. Its working and now stable, whereas the Deco when connected to the F3000 kept going red with a no internet connection error on the app. The obvious pain here is the Deco units support up to 100mb and the Fibre package i'm on is 1Gb. So will lose out considerably on speed in place of (hopeful) consistent wifi. Any suuggestions on improvemnts ar general advice appreciated here - I did look at the top post by

    PeeJayIEee

    and note the Deco units referenced are pretty superior to my own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭pizzahead77


    I'd replace the Deco units with something that has 1GB or higher ports so that you'd have higher speeds on wifi



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭NotShero


    Yeah it’s always best to connect straight to the ONT, If you’re connecting it to the F3000 you need to set the Deco into Access Point Mode and ideally turn the WiFi (2.4Ghz & 5Ghz) off on the F3000.

    The Deco E4 only has 100Mb/s ports as you said so needs to be replaced. You could however buy one upgraded Deco, with 1Gb ports, to use as your router and use your existing ones around the house as nodes.

    Add one M4 as a router into your existing E4 setup -

    https://amzn.eu/d/gNdfYrD

    New mesh with WiFi 6 (Can still add your existing E4’s to it) -

    https://amzn.eu/d/i1V0JA4



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Broadbanned


    Just to chime in here. I recently got a pair of XE75 Deco Mesh units and successfully configured them with Eirs FTTH. Fully configured, getting IPV4 and IPV6 running in tandem, without the use of Eirs router.

    I am connecting the first deco directly to the ONT and then connecting the second one via wired backhaul.

    These are the exact steps I took.

    Make sure your Eir Router is plugged in and you connect to its web browsers login page. This is done by going onto your pc or phone and typing in 192.168.1.254 in URL searchbar. Log in using your original WiFi password on the back of the box. The username is admin.

    Once logged in, you will be looking for two main things "WAN Mac Address" (very important and needed for the deco setup) and go to IPV6 and get the IPV6 primary and secondary DNS. Write these three things down.

    Now, turn of the ONT by the wall socket (or unplug it if your socket doesn't have switches) and plug out the eir Router, you are done with that completely. 

    Wait 5 minutes, plug in /switch on the ONT. 

    Plug your deco in to the wall and start the setup. 

    First select "I don't have a modem" if that comes up as you will be running it straight to the ONT. 

    It should ask you to plug in the wan cable. Plug the wan cable from the ONT to the deco and it may ask to restart the ONT in the setup guide. Do whatever it says for that.

    The next step should be choosing Dynamic IP or PPPOE etc. 

    Very important for fiber to the home users. 

    (Also, you can enable/set up IPV6 separately after if you wish , same as I did)

    Select

    Dynamic IP

    DNS address Auto

    Enable IPTV/VLAN

    Set ISP Profile to "Custom" 

    Set VLAN ID to 10

    Set priority to 0

    Disable IPTV VLAN (or just make sure it's not enabled). If any issues arises where you can't uncheck this, just set it up and then disable it after, but it should just let you. 

    Most important thing. Enable "Mac Clone" and input the WAN mac address you wrote down when logged into the previous Eir Router. 

    This clones the previous routers Mac address and gives the green light for the internet to come through every time. Without this sometimes if you reboot or change certain settings , it can't get back on the internet. This  Mac cloning will essentially turn the new tp link router into an eir verified/authorised router in terms of recieving internet. 

    Now onto IPV6. By far the trickiest to get set up. 

    Remember this rule of thumb also, whenever you change the IPV6 type etc, you have to reboot your modem for it to take effect. So if you are trying different methods/types and wondering why none of them are working , it might just be because you never rebooted. 

    How I got it to work for Eir specifically: For IPV6 , enable it firstly if it's not. Then:

    Set Dynamic IP

    Set "Non Address" for "Get IPV6 address" 

    Enable Prefix Delegation 

    Here's a tricky bit. You can set the DNS to auto or alternatively, type in the two IPV6 DNS you took down when you were logged into the eir Router. 

    I personally chose auto, and it auto filled in with the same DNS options anyway, however they randomly disappeared ( they were showing at first, but IPV6 still works regardless ). I may just put them in manually and would probably recommend doing/trying that however I'm just stating exactly what I did to get it to work.

    Last part is choose "SLAAC + Stateless DHCP" as the Assigned type.

    After this reboot your router (either from the app or the wall) and it should work when it boots back up. 

    I really hope this helps anyone that's trying to set these up. I hope it works, I know how frustrating it can be messing with settings all day 😁. 

    PS, go on whatismyIPaddress.com and both IPV6 and IPv4 should now be recognised. Alternatively you can load  the IPV6 version of google and it should tell you there too.

    Post edited by Broadbanned on


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭Doodah7


    Coincidentally, I too set up two XE75's last weekend and after ignoring eir's useless settings advice on their website and choosing Dynamic IP and setting VLAN to 10, I was working away immediately. Although having this useful guide would have been brilliant! Incidentally, I didn't switch off the ONT, just switched routers and proceeded as above.

    Can I ask: I didn't switch on IPv6 and I am wondering what is the advantage in doing so?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Broadbanned


    If you want an apples to apples setup mainly. Some modern devices use it I'm guessing and there can be pros to efficiency and when accessing certain sites, etc. I don't know a massive amount, but I will most likely do some research regarding this. My main aim was to get it set up exactly like Eir's router. And IPV6 is supposedly the future.

    Also, switching off the ONT isn't always required, but a general rule of thumb is to do so as it essentially covers the variables that can occur when using different devices.

    Post edited by Broadbanned on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Broadbanned


    Also, while maybe placebo, browsing feels a bit snappier when I have both running.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭NabyLadistheman


    Just digging this up again if that's ok. I just had eir FTTH installed. Is removing their router the best way to go about this? I will be using Deco X10



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭NotShero


    Yeah just connect the Deco directly to the ONT. Set Dynamic IP as the connection type. Then in IPTV/VLAN settings set Internet VLAN ID 10.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭biebiebie


    Just thought I'd chime in here in case it's of any use to anyone. I have similar working.

    The key for me (as per above) was to plug directly into the ONT. And set vlan=10. The Eir router is back in its box.

    I'm using an Asus RT-AX88U Pro wired into the ONT (and broadcasting WiFi). And then an Asus RT-AX82U (old router) in mesh mode over wifi to extend the wifi signal from the kitchen and beyond into the back garden. I have a third Asus router not in use, but I might add it to the mesh for upstairs . However it's not really required as the AX88U is so strong, so it's just a spare currently.

    As you might tell, I'm a fan of Asus routers. A big fan of the kids settings/protection. Not to mention the stability!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    OK. I'm way behind you all when it comes to this stuff. Here's my problem and I appreciate any advice.

    I have on TP Link RE650 plugged in to my new Eir black box. (technician said this was the best set up) I have another RE650 plugged in to the room above. The third floor is the problem, of course it worked when the technician was here, now it works for a few seconds after a reboot then it goes to Network Status - No Internet and we've no wifi on the third floor. I've rebooted, factory reboot… all the advice online, correct passwords etc…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭NotShero


    Those are range extenders, so you wouldn't connect it directly to the Eir router.

    They do have an "Access Point Mode" If you have ethernet running to those areas of the house, but I presume you don't?

    You place them somewhere halfway between where you want better signal and where the router is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Thanks so much @NotShero I think I'm almost there with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭NotShero


    You can change their SSIDs (WiFi name) to match the Eir router in their settings but YMMV. Your devices may or may not handover between the Eir router and the extenders with the same SSID.

    You could instead replace the Eir router altogether with a TP-Link router to make your own integrated "mesh system" with the extenders -

    https://amzn.eu/d/cU9YS1W

    https://amzn.eu/d/09qQIYV



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    OK!! If all fails I will venture out on this (advanced but I assume brilliant advice). Thanks again for taking the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭The Ayatolla


    Do you not have to also set the PPPOE username/password?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭NotShero


    PPPoE is not needed with Eir and Virgin Media, you just select IPoE/DHCP/Dynamic IP.



Advertisement