Israel/Palestine Thread

I've no doubt at all that this will be allowed to happen. It's just a macro-level version of the hand wringing that goes on here, Israel can't do any wrong apparently, even up to and including possible genocide.

‘Norway’s sovereign wealth fund has just divested from five Israeli banks and from Caterpillar, the US construction equipment manufacturer that supplies Israel with bulldozers to destroy Palestinian property in Gaza and the West Bank. The fund held stakes in 38 Israeli companies as of 14 August, and has not promised to divest in all cases, only to review potential human rights violations. The Spanish government is aiming to pass a full arms embargo against Israel, with Pedro Sánchez, the prime minister, under pressure to recall the country’s ambassador in Tel Aviv. These moves are progressive compared with other EU governments, but lag years behind public opinion.’

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/01/ireland-israel-gaza-flotilla-war-bonds-eu-genocide

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm214r5rd29o

Abu Obeida, the spokesman for Hamas's armed wing, has been killed in an aerial attack in Gaza City, Israel has said.

Another senior Hamas leader now worm food, not at all surprising he was hiding in a built up civilian area, using ordinary Palestinians as human shields.

Welcome back Francie. Yes. I read that yesterday. If he was hiding among civilians , he and others should know by now it offers no safety at all- as we know from past instances your IDF friends are quite happy to kill 50 civilians to kill a single Hamas member

With this in mind can you tell me why Israel has military facilities in built up areas of Tel Aviv, one of which is close to a hospital. Seeing as your consistent in your condemnation of using human shields, you'd no doubt be heavily critical of Israel for doing so in the event of a strike targetting one of these facilities killing scores of civilians in the process. You wouldn't hold the attacker responsible for killing scores of civilians if their aim was to target senior IDF figures inside the building.

The scoundrel!

Tell me was it like this?

Or like this?

Or maybe like the day the Israeli's used a 13 year old as a human shield?

The Zio bots are already out in force denying everything. There is literally nothing that would dissuade them, not even their messiah Netanyahu ending up behind bars for war crimes.

I don't think any one of them feel an ounce of shame for their posts over the last couple of years tbh, genocide ruling or no.

That crowd are simply happy a people they hate are being owned (i.e. massacred) by a country that they believe represents them in doing this - where those people be Palestinians, or what they see as the "left".

It doesn't matter that this country they see as representative of them is systematically murdering babies and children - this "owning" makes them feel like the big men, so they will support it all.

All the other things they put forward - the horseshit accusations, the slander, the nonsense, is a thinly veiled smokescreen to give their evil machinations an illusion of legitimacy.

This finding will register with them for sure, but they won't care - they already all knew this was happening. Why else would they refuse to engage on logical questions regarding the conflict, or go quiet when the hypocritical arguments they are making are exposed? They know well what's happening alright.

These are the equivalent of the fascist sympathisers and virulent Jew haters around Europe during the holocaust. Gazans will continue to be killed, and these guys will keep pumping out the bulls*it - it won't matter a jot what genocide ruling comes down.

Israel wants to do its dirty deeds in the dark

Starry: HAILED AS A “LANDMARK INTERVENTION” FROM THE 500-MEMBER INTERNATIONAL BODY OF GENOCIDE EXPERTS IN INTERNATIONAL LAW

The International Association of Genocide Scholars has made an official pronouncement that the Israeli war on Gaza meets the legal definition of genocide.

‘Israel committing genocide in Gaza, scholars group says’
‘Leading genocide scholars formally declare that Israel’s war on Gaza meets the UN’s definition of genocide.’
1 Sep 2025
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/1/israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza-scholars-group-says

“The International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS), a 500-member body of academics founded in 1994, passed a resolution on Monday, stating that Israel’s policies and actions in Gaza fulfil the definition of genocide set out in the 1948 United Nations Convention for the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.”

Starry: The four Geneva Conventions I, II, III and IV of 1949 (sic), and their additional protocols, form the core part of International Humanitarian law (IHL). They are also known as Laws of War governing the conduct of armed conflict.

These international treaties limit the means and methods of warfare. For example, the National Zionism government’s military strategy of starvation as a weapon of war... The blockade of aid to Gaza is a war crime.

IHL outlines a crystal clear framework governing the conduct of armed conflict, in particular to protect women and children.

In essence, IHL is the core part of the rules of warfare.

IAGS Resolution on the Situation in Gaza [3pp]
Current as of 28 July 2025
Resolution passed 31 August 2025
https://genocidescholars.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/IAGS-Resolution-on-Gaza-FINAL.pdf

I think the moral authority of the west (excepting a few countries like Ireland, Spain and Slovenia) as a region that supports human rights is being destroyed in the Muslim world because of the failure to sanction Israel or even halt arms sales.

Polls show many western governments are out of touch with voters in this conflict, especially in UK and Germany. In UK, France and Germany support for Israel in a poll mentioned in The Guardian in June ranged from 13-20%. Parallels with public opinion against the Iraq war when some governments like the Aznar government in Spain were supporting it, despite 90% of Spaniards opposing it. The current Spanish government is in touch with public opinion on Gaza.

I think the West is better for human rights internally though. Developments in the US are a cause of concern though.

I suspect that some of this is because of US pressure though. This especially matters because if the unfortunate fact that the Gaza war is going on at the same time as the Russia-Ukraine war.

While this is welcome, it's a pity that these countries are only recognising the state of Palestine when that state is near destruction. While much of the focus is on the terrorists' genocide of the Gazan people, the Palestinians in the West Bank continue to be forcibly displaced. Unless these israeli acts of terrorism are stopped, what is going to be left of Palestine to recognise?

The waiting is something I don't really get either, this isn't the first time it's happened. Just recognise it if you're going to do it.