Presidential Election.

The influence of the Church started collapsing in the 70s, that is why the Pope visited here in 79. He came to reaffirm the faith, but it was gone. Their influence was gone by the 80s and especially 90s. They were still around, making a rackett, evening banning the odd movie here and there, but they were irrelevant to the youth who had turned from them completely.

It is my view that this wave of Progressive Policies are much more damaging than anything the clergy did. We just aren't allowed to talk about the issues in public yet. We all knew about the Church sex abuse scandals (and political corruption) in the 80s it wasn't until the 90s it was discussed in mainstream media. The media and politicians are always behind the people….but they think it is the other way around. That is why it is so predictable. Any funny. We've already seen the mass deletion of Pronouns on Linedin over the last year….a lotta embarrassed folk out there.

What are you on about? I'm saying I think she will do better than many on boards think IF she manages to get a nomination. Running in a GE is completely different to a National Campaign. This is getting ridiculous.

Between Gavin and Pat Gilroy, Brolly is a bigger fan-boy of those two than any MAGA Republican.

Never seen arse-licking like it

The people voting will look for someone with their values and everything is political e.g. housing budget, education budget, foreign affairs relations.

You are a rebel, that's what you are!!!

You didn't actually answer his post. You're claiming progressive policies are more damaging than the stranglehold the church had over Ireland which included sexual abuse and physical abuse cover-ups that continue to come to light... It's incredibly disrespectful towards those who were victims of it tbh.

I have no issue with same sex marriage or the repeal referendum whatso ever. The NGO class however didn't stop there did they.

You have accused me of being impacted by same sex marriage, and called me unhinged. Arguing with a Progressive is like arguing with a child, it is all emotive nonsense. It's no wonder Progressives are riddled with mental health issues.

You keep adding to your post.

I mentioned Norris because he was front runner in a Presidential Election before his support collapsed once the race began in earnest. Honestly dude, you should hit the hay. this is getting the better of you.

How about starting with looking at how you are behaving.

By the NGO class, do you mean the citizens of Ireland? Cause I remember those two referendums. They were largely pushed by members of the public who did on the ground campaigning.

I didn't call you anything btw. Looking back, you have engaged in lots of name calling though. I think I'm gonna leave you to it for now cause you seem intent on derailing the thread into conspiracy theories and such...

I'm also intrigued by what the basis for your disdain for 'progressive policies' 'feminists' and the 'NGO Class' etc is. You make a number of sweeping assertions about Irish people, Irish history, and Irish politics and I agree with some of them, especially those points that are demonstrably true from history, eg the collapse in influence of the Catholic Church, etc. But when pressed on the detail, you resort to ad nominem type stuff, instead of justifying the point. To me, that's exactly what happens when fanatical and fundamentalist types are scrutinised-- no real substance but lots of ranting and shouting about being 'right'. So, which progressive policies of late have you found most damaging to Ireland and can you outline what disaster is coming down the line for us? And how will this impact the Presidency for the next 7 years?

An extraordinary reply to a pretty straightforward and factual post- what’s your game anyway?

I am not elaborating because one, this is not the thread. Two, we are not allowed talk about some of the more extreme Progressive Policies (as I have mentioned). Three, I know exactly how it goes, as soon as a topic is even alluded to the zealots come after you, badgering, misrepresenting, engaging in dishonest emotive arguments etc. We are in another cycle and will be some time yet before we here in Ireland can openly discuss a lot of the topics, you can plainly see how the radicalized behave on here. But just like the 70s and 80s, just because serious social policies aren't being discussed in open public discourse, doesn't mean we don't have serious social problems that need to be openly discussed.

But let me be clear, I have nothing but utter disdain for most of the Progressive ideology and policies.

I have no doubt I will be ridiculed for even saying as much, but being ridiculed by a Progressive is fun for me. I listened to a conversation with Peader Tobin recently, where he discussed a private conversation with a long serving Senior Government Minister, he asked why this chap couldn't talk publicly about (a particular social topic), he said he there was no way he could, he would be castigated, this was a senior Government minister. Steen would have no problem discussing any of those social topics, probably why she won't get nomination or if she does she will be attacked by the bought and paid for media. I am repeating myself at this stage, I don't have much more to offer on the topic of Steen.

That is Ireland in 2025, it was last like this in the 1970s.