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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,648 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    G. Sheridan might hoover the young and entrepreneurial vote up but I question his commitment only returning to Ireland this year for this election .

    More importantly he won't be on the ballot unless he has a massive rabbit to pull from his hat. IT today said he and Delahanty were the only indos seriously attempting to woo councilors but basically neither had a prayer unless they could somehow get one of the big parties onside.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,042 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Another person choosing to totally miss my point. I've said nothing about Jim Gavin's qualities or suitability for the Presidency and I'm utterly baffled where you got the impression that I support Catherine Connolly.

    Once again, I'm refuting the idea that there's 100s of thousands of voters out there who will blindly vote for a candidate solely because they are a prominent GAA figure. There is no evidence that this bloc of voters exists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭Hailtothethief


    So, can someone tell me who Jim Gavin is and why Martin would back him? I've never heard of him (I'm not a GAA fan). What political experience does he have and does he know and understand the role of the president? Does he know how to read and understand any legislation that comes across his desk to sign or refer to council of state?

    Anyway, is it as case of anyone but Bertie and Kelleher for Martin? Isn't there bad blood between Martin and both Bertie and Kelleher?

    Sure didn't Kelleher run for Europe when Martin didn't want him to and he got in? Didn't Kelleher run for the Dail years ago (and get elected) when Martin didn't want him on the ticket?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,258 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    I read that article... but not that they hadn't a prayer ? Must have missed that .

    I think Delahanty hasn't a prayer . Already annoyed many of those he is now trying to cajole into giving him a nom.

    Sheridan may get some to vote for him among independent Senators or TDs .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,876 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I'm saying he would have been thinking of prospects for a long time.

    They also would have been keeping an eye on the rest of the field. There remained a good chance that they may not have contested against McGuinness.

    Jim Gavin will likely be favourite going into polling day, so I fail to see what your point is here?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,215 ✭✭✭jackboy


    He would very much be a safe pair of hands. He will not speak out against government in a meaningful way, He will endlessly talk about the benefits of immigration and warn against those who speak out against current policies.

    He will sign what he is told to sign, no need to worry about him not understanding what he is signing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,258 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    If you don't know about him there are a few posts back about his work as COO of IAA and also head of the Air Corps and served abroad when he was an active member of the Irish Army .

    The very successful Dublin GAA manager role was just another string to his bow .

    "Jim Gavin profile: Is former Dublin GAA manager a good fit for president?"

    https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/08/30/jim-gavin-profile-is-former-dublin-gaa-manager-a-good-fit-for-president/

    Now maybe you can tell us about Billy Kelleher and what good he has done for Ireland ( not just Cork ) apart from ensuring he got elected as a TD and then as an MEP and now is looking at the Áras ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,147 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Archduke Franz Ferdinand


    depressing really that FF are trying to foist Jim Gavin on us, also speaks about the monumental ego Jim Gavin must have to go along with this charade.lts a bad joke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,876 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Thats not a point.

    Jim Gavin is a meticulous, ambitious, strategic and accomplished man,who suffers no fools. He had already accepted a number of leadership roles from the government in running the Inner City Task Force and chairing citizen's assemblies.

    FF approaching him and saying 'Jim, we have you in mind for this, we're still getting our ducks in a row, but we'll need to get moving in about 8 to 10 weeks' , is not "springing it" on him by any objective analysis.

    Again, I fail to see your point here. You appear to be attempting to identify incompetence or tail-chasing on the part of FF, where absolutely none exists.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,648 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Quoted Eoin O'Malley at the end

    Despite the genuine efforts of Delehanty and Sheridan, Dr Eoin O’Malley of Dublin City University’s School of Law and Government remains pessimistic about the Young Turks’ path to the ballot paper.

    O’Malley says that if Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil councillors follow the directions of their party headquarters, it could be “almost impossible” for Independents to get on the ticket.

    Okay not quite saying they haven't a prayer…

    I don't remember those run-ins between Martin and Kelleher but anyway I don't think Martin's approach can only be explained by him bearing a grudge against Kelleher. Likely he simply thinks Gavin has a much better chance of winning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    I'm surprised to see a lot of commentary this weekend on how Jim Gavin will win the "GAA vote", maybe it's not realised outside of the capital or understood by non-GAA supporters but that era of Dublin team was absolutely despised and loathed by 31 other countries because of the unfair funding, sponsorship advantages and home stadium advantages Dublin enjoyed. That period of Dublin dominance turned so many fans away from the Championship that attendances and viewers have been in freefall ever since.

    As a coach he was viewed as a drill sergeant, cold and uncompromising. His contribution to the amateur game was to professionalise conditioning filling his squad with full-time gym bunnies who could outrun and outfight amateur opponents, it was ugly at times and sapped a lot of the life out of the sport for many.

    I'm sure many GAA fans around the country will have strong views on Jim but they won't be the kind Micheál Martin seems to expect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,175 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    I said similar on an earlier post.

    he is rightly considered a GAA legend in Dublin.

    Outside Dublin ??? Hmmm, not quite as positive….

    As the other poster said, he reeked of self entitlement, smugness and yes…the cardinal mortal sin of Irishness - arrogance !! To much of the rest of the GAA counties.

    Many of us know the anecdotes over the years how Jim Gavin treated opposing managers and players in a shabby, disrespectful manner during his time as manager of the Dubs.


    I heard first hand how he dismissed an excellent Kildare player, who had soldiered over many years for them as “third rate” and “what the eff would Kildare know about football anyway.”

    That story was told in every club house in the county.

    1 very respected ex manager put it well one night - “Jim is a bollox, but what’s worse he knows he is and plays up to it”

    I could repeat many other similar stories - worse ones which Mayo and Kerry ppl will know.

    All I can say is GAA people have long memories and “prim and proper” Jim might get a very rude awakening if he thinks he is universally loved in Ireland…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭Hailtothethief


    Kelleher was added last minute to the 2019 ticket after a careful campaign by Kelleher et al. Martin didn't want to loose a TD to Europe but Kelleher did his homework. It made the press in Cork alright.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30912723.html

    Martin could be thinking about the poor electoral results in Dublin for FF so maybe a Dub with name recognition may get votes in Dublin. As others have pointed out, being a Dublin GAA person may not go down too well in the rest of the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭Hailtothethief


    @Goldengirl (tried to quote you but buggered it up)

    I can't tell you anything about Kelleher beyond he's been a TD, junior minister and an MEP. I've never voted for him as I don't agree with a lot of what FF stands for. Kelleher, however, is a canny political operator and knows how to campaign. He managed to hold his seat in the 2011 FF electoral slaughter. That shows how canny he is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,346 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The idea that she would get nominated was widely ridiculed, not that she'd try to. Do keep up.

    Also, she's a terrible potential candidate just like all the other far-right weirdos that have been suggested.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Playback made Billy Kelleher sound awful stupid this morning. Earlier in the week he told Claire Byrne that "to be honest" he hasn't thought about a bid for the presidency. A couple of days later he was all in. Made him look like a typical FF gombeen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,258 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    There are those stories about many a manager all over and not just GAA.

    It is a point though I thought myself he will not have made friends along the way around those counties they beat for sure .

    I suppose the Irish Army and families around the country may vote for him as well as FF faithful .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,738 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    She can seek a candidacy yes, and so can I. It means nothing.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,738 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The Sindo is a comic and any posts that quote it are just noise.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,738 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    What kind of sap opens an email to a stranger saying "I hope you are well" ?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,455 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Even though I have reservations about the panel approach used in the Ireland Thinks and RedC polls, the Ireland Thinks polls tend to be quite good. If you are talking about the analysis of these polls in the Sindo, then it is not as good as the polls.

    Regards…jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,738 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,876 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Given that most of your takes are nonsensical ravings, I think most here will ignore that opinion for what it is.

    On the wider issue of Jim Gavin's appeal outside Dublin, or not, I don't think that'll bother him or FF particularly, either way. 30% of all voters live in county Dublin, and although Gavin won't get every single one, as the sole Dubliner in the race so far, those are statistical advantages that both Humphreys and Connolly would give their right arms for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,147 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,762 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    cant see gavin getting very far in this race, think ff have made a mistake



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


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    Jim Gavin in the Sunday Times today. If this is his opinion of political success then he’s failed already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,613 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    MM may be playing a slightly different game. Running JG in the race does give FF a chance of winning or at least doing well. The second benefit is running a well liked FF figure in the capitol and building back it as a support base for FF.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,657 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Connolly on RTE radio at 1 pm today



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,690 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Interestingly, she is still the only declared candidate in the race and the only person who can campaign and give interviews.



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