Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Ah yes, it is Ireland’s fault for not teaching incoming people not to rape and murder

“God forbid something like this happens here”

Sorry Al-Qadri, but tragedies of this nature have already happened here

Regardless, refreshing to see that even the agitators in favour of the current state of affairs are openly acknowledging that arrivals from totally different cultures are often not compatible with Ireland’s societal values

The fact that the owners could put 2 bunk beds in each room and then get e320 per room 365 days a year V say average e140 a night for a double for 8 months a year (minus booking website fees) is totally irrelevant do u reckon?

The golf course needed the hotel to survive

But that's not a viable business model they say. I mean, it's viable all over the world where tourism businesses depend on, guess what, tourists, but not here in Ireland. Here, tourism is somehow expected to survive without tourists.

You maybe confusing D15's Al Qadri - with al-Qaradawi, who was associated with Clonskeagh.

Two not very well reported stories here. Switzerland had its biggest immigrant riot, after teen stole scooter and crashed and died being chased by police. https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/various/wednesday-night-was-a-quiet-one-in-lausanne/89900660

And an American tourist stabbed muliple times but survived after asking two guys (Syrian arrested) to stop harrasing women on a tram in Dresden: https://www.dw.com/en/dresden-man-arrested-after-tram-knife-attack-on-us-citizen/a-73772806

In fairness to Al Qadri, while he maybe more hardline than a Free Presbyterian on many issues, he's still the closest thing we have to a spokesperson for moderate Islam. And seems genuinely concerned about immigrant integration issues, and potential violence outbreaks.

He is an absolute chancer - has claimed to have born both in the EU and in Pakistan alternately, generally not the kind of detail you’d be unsure of about yourself

There was also the “attack” he experienced, conveniently around the time of the elections of which there was no evidence whatsoever found despite extensive Garda investigations - I’d bet anything it was a complete Jussie Smollet case https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jussie_Smollett_hate_crime_hoax

Furthermore, this kind of commentary from him rubs me up the wrong way. I don’t even disagree that “Make Ireland Great Again” is a dumb slogan.
But who the hell is he to pontificate to Ireland about our past? I imagine Pakistan was an economically vibrant paragon of equality in the time period he’s referring to?

Deeply unequal? Socially repressive?
Yes that could be applied to Ireland in the past - much less so today however.

But I’d love to quiz the Shaykh on his and his fellow Muslims views on the rights of women and LGBT people…they wouldn’t be “unequal” in the slightest no doubt.
It’s also just coincidence that Muslim countries the world over comprise some of the most socially repressive regimes extant today.

Get your own shop in order before wagging the finger from your glass house. The bloody neck.

Hotels closing the tourism side and opening up as IPAS centres is a capitalists dream. They get paid vast amounts of money, don’t pay security and insurance as that gets paid by the state. Much less effort and maximum profit all at the expense of local economies. It is astonishing to see people defend this

i don't think so TBH as the occupation could only be guaranteed for a certain time due to various reasons including change of government and change in policy ETC.

if viable as a hotel then staying as a hotel would work out better as it can be kept going for as long as people come, whereas operating as a ipas centre isn't an absolute guarantee of income.

The Irish government needs to get its head out of the sand and start planning for the asylum seeker mess that’s going to land on our doorstep if Nigel Farage’s lot take over in the UK. Everyone can see what’s coming, but true to form, they’ll just sit back, do nothing, and leave us to deal with the chaos.

Its funny. France doesn't want them. Let's them in into the UK and they don't want them.

Two countries with massive mounting debt and massive migration increases over the last few decades.

Any correlation there?

Meanwhile the egits here just shrug their shoulders and think shure be grand

The German chancellor said this week they can no longer afford the welfare bill there. Maybe Merkel filling the place up with refugees wasn't such a good idea after all.

I see trump taking a stake in Intel, apple has big plans and countless pharma companies here announcing big plants in the US.

Meanwhile our government continues spending like drunken sailors, I think the well is gonna run dry sooner rather than later.

“what is meaningful is the law and abiding by it and quite rightly rape is a criminal offense in this country, granted marrital rape wasn't so up until the early 90s i believe.”

The early 90s was about 35 years ago. I don’t see the relevance of this to either the Ireland of today or immigration

Worst part is that Denmark style policies could be implemented with the flick of pen. The inability is due to the combination of Corporate Interests, Heavy NGO pressure and media manipulation.

I suspect enough powerful people here would rather 'show up' the UK by taking more Refugees in the future than anything else.

You have a false impression. Here's some video from barely four decades ago to show you how long the 'long term immigration history' of London really is.

https://x.com/JamesLucasIT/status/1960466053500440945