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Should I go public sector

  • 20-08-2025 08:57AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8


    I am number 3 on a panel awaiting a HEO role offer in the public sector. Currently I am in the private sector. I earn 62K in the private sector and the HEO role is starting at 58k. In the public sector there is an additional ASC tax in addition to other taxes paid. Can someone explain what this is for ? I am considering the move but the ASC is a bit hard to swallow. Are there any benefits to making a move to the Public Sector? I am paid monthly and I heard the public sector can be bi-weekly does this mean there are months with 3 payments or is it bi-monthly payments and not bi-weekly.

    Has anyone made the move. Are you happy with the decision to move to the Public Sector ?

    Any information would be much appreciated.



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,511 ✭✭✭Aisling(",)


    You'd be paid every second Thursday which means two months of the year you have 3 paydays.

    The ASC is a pain. It's 3.33% of your wages from €34,500 to €60,000 and 3.5% for everything over €60,000.IT goes to nothing so I just try not to think about it.

    I think you need to consider the salary scale with the HEO. Currently its starting at €58,847 but with the pay deal by 01 June 2026 it'll be €60,029. After a year you'd be up to €61,784.

    You'll also (most likely) be entitled to flexi leave which is a day and a half every 4 weeks. Tbh this is the main selling point for me.

    Changing jobs is a big decision so make sure to think it through. I was a HEO and thought it was a great role. Money is decent, you're very much middle management so always have someone to go to on issues and I got the chance to move to different roles and get qualifications.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,397 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    The benefits of moving to the public sector are generally around job security, a clear salary pathway (that scale goes up to close to 80K), a DB pension, although granted T's and C's for newer entrants have degraded somewhat and generally better family friendly leave policies. You'll generally have access to flextime and a decent number of days annual leave on top of bank holidays etc. Usually no overtime expectations. Outside of that the specific HEO role will vary from department to department and even within departments. You could be managing 30-40 staff (either directly or indirectly) or have no staff reporting to you - the expectations can also vary from role to role.

    The ASC is essentially a pension deduction but it just goes back into government funds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 stachOfPiroes


    @Aisling(",) Thanks for you reply. So if I were to get a role and accept it say Dec/Jan. Come June my salary would also increase with the paydeal ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    Correct. It would also go up again in Dec/Jan when you've completed your first probation (1 year anniversary) and goes up an increment every year after that once you're up to scratch.

    Current scale is as follows:

    Higher Executive Officer Standard Scale – PPC

    Starting €58,847 or €2263 gross per fortnight

    2nd year €60,567

    3rd year €62,285

    4th year €64,000 or €2461 per fortnight

    5th year €65,723

    6th year €67,437

    7th year €69,157 or €2659 per fortnight

    LSI1 - (start of 10th year) €71,637

    LSI2 - (start of 13th year) €74,112 or €2850 per fortnight

    • These all increased by 1% at the start of August and will do so again on 1st February 2026 and again on 1st June 2026.
    • There is another scheduled increase due to take place in September 2025, though it's not clear what shape that will take.
    • Won't be concluded by September but should be backdated whenever it does come in.
    • In 7 years your pay is set to go up by €198 per WEEK before tax, and that's not counting the current and/or future pay deals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Pajo_Smith_84


    I was placed high up in a panel earlier this year but ultimately turned down the role. I don't know what age you are but I am mid-40s and would have had to "buy" years into my pension to get the full entitlement at retirement age (as you need to have 40 years to qualify for the just okay pension), the cost of that, plus the lack of over-time, bonus, etc.. made it unworkable financially.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 stachOfPiroes


    Thanks for all the replies. They are very helpful. The role itself is an ICT HEO role. I guess its a case of wait for an offer then decide. Thanks again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    A lot will depend on what you wish to achieve from your working/domestic life. Finding the sweet spot is the key, the maximum compensation for the minimum hours worked.

    e.g. getting 80k annually for 35hr weeks v's 100k for 45hr weeks. You'll find people who think this is a no brainer yet will chose different options.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,969 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    It’s the job security that has me trying to get in. I was made redundant after 12.5 years in May. It’s been draining.. take time to tailor my CV, fill in the same stupid crap in Workday every time and try not to get my hopes up only to get rejected (and realise I did get my hopes up!) without a call back - this is with referrals! Even if I do get a job with the way tech is going I could be in the same position multiple times before I retire in 20 years.. vs guaranteed increments, flexi time, shorter hours etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Pajo_Smith_84


    but the OP is going in at HEO, it will take years to get anywhere near that level unless he gets promoted to AP which can be very difficult



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 stachOfPiroes


    @Pajo_Smith_84 How long did you have to wait between being told you were on a panel and actually being offered a role. I am willing to take a hit in salary as long as it is not a massive one. I work a 45-50hr week as it is with no overtime. So the way I am balancing it is it's a small hit in salary (I hope) for a shorter working day (again I hope !)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    A lot of these questions can be easily enough answered with a bit of research.

    Bi-weekly is what it says - you are paid every two weeks, thats 26 payslips in the year.

    One challenge with public sector pay packets is that its very hard to put a value on (i) job security and (ii) the pension. Specifically, whats the monetary value of it.

    There is a public sector pension modeller, you can search that up.

    A factor I'd definitely consider is that if you join the public sector - then you are most likely getting skilled up in 'how the public sector works' - what I mean is, if you stay there 5 or 10 years, it can be very very hard to get back into private sector, unles you work in something specific like HR.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭GNWoodd


    All salaries quoted here ( and everywhere else ) are gross.

    Anyone in CS or PS earning say 70 k will have at least 20 k taken off that in the shopping list of statutory deductions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    The pay calculators are available online - wouldnt have thought deductions are that high, that would mean net pay at only like 45% of gross after including income tax, which isn't the case.

    But again OP - a lot of this info is available on line, the pension modeller, the salary calculators. You should be able to work it out precisely, and also the HR team should also be able to talk you through it line by line. Now is the time to ask.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    The other difference is that in the public sector, there's only one input into your payslip and that's the salary.

    In a lot of private sector jobs, there's your salary, plus maybe a pension contribution, health insurance, mobile phone, car allowance and annual bonus. Share options if you're really lucky.

    You just need to be sure you're comparing like with like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,548 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    During the austerity years, public servants took multiple pay cuts.

    One of these was not a simple pay-cut, it was a new, extra pension contribution called the PRD.

    It has since been reduced, reformed, and re-named the ASC.

    It is a new, extra pension contribution, but there was no improvement in pension benefits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭GNWoodd


    In 2024,a single person working in the CS/PS , on an income of 71k had deductions of almost 24k ( including income tax )



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 600 ✭✭✭TheSunIsShining


    Higher earning public sector workers lose 60% of any pay increase. So if your pay increases from say €70k to €75k, you will only bank 40% of that extra €5k. Absolutely that doesn't mean you're losing 60% of your overall salary to taxes and deductions obviously, but just keep it in mind when looking at future pay increases.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,437 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    How long is a piece of string. In other words it depends when a job becomes available. Its not to fill "available jobs" but when a job becomes available.

    Edit: there will also be other lists such as promotion and people looking for a move and they pick from these evenly.

    Cities can be quick other places, don't hold your breath if your not top 4 and after 2 years the panel goes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,437 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Public sector pay slips have those also if you pay through your wages. Eg I have LPT, Health insurance, income continuance protection



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    But they still come out of your salary. It's convenient to have them deducted at source but that's all it is, convenience.

    Many private sector jobs offer these things as perks on top of the base salary.

    If the OP is in IT, there's a good chance he's getting a few of these at least.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,541 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I'm a HEO in IT 20+ years.

    Go for it OP. The cut in your gross salary is small (and will be made back in a year or two with increments) but you're gaining quite a bit in terms of free time outside of work.

    HEOs are very rarely required to do overtime (and the overtime rate is quite unattractive anyway) so your 35 hour week, excluding lunch, is what you actually work, unless there was a complete disaster, so try to prevent those 😁

    WFH should be available too, 2 or 3 days a week depending on department, as well as flexitime and decent annual leave.

    Oh and once every 9 or 10 years or so, there are 27 fortnightly pay days in a year 😀 this is why the fortnightly gross pay is the annual salary divided by 26.09 not 26. You really do get nothing for nothing, and no perks at all ever, but against that you know you will always have a job, you know where you will be based and what your hours will be.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 stachOfPiroes


    Well this is confusing. I was 3rd on OOM for a HEO role. When I was intitailly asked to interview for the role I flagged that the role I was being asked to interview for was in Co. Clare and I am in Dublin and only Dublin roles would suit. They suggested I do the interview eitherway to which I did. I was placed number 3 on OOM but it seems it is for Clare batch. So I have no idea what is happening now. Anyone been in this position before or know what I should expect. If I turn down the Clare role is that it ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 Benihunter


    If you're on the panel for a Higher Executive Officer position then I presume that's the civil service rather than public service. Now they are very similar but there are some differences.

    I left a private sector job about 10 years ago to work in the public sector and for me it was definitely the right choice but it all depends on your circumstances.

    I was travelling around the country in the private sector and while technically I was on more money, the extra unpaid hours and additional travel really left me on less per hour when you consider that time is money.

    Now again the civil and public sectors are quite similar so basically the pros are, you have more time off, there's very little unpaid overtime (which can be very common in the private sector depending on your area/trade etc), you have flexi time, there's good pension, promotion and annual leave benefits and you have good job security as well.

    The drawback if you like is that it's steady eddie stuff, ie it won't make you a millionaire or anything close to it, so you have to weigh up if that's suitable or not for you.

    Regarding turning down jobs, in the public sector that's usually it and you have to re-apply and go through the interview process again etc.

    The civil service may be different though, for example I was on a HSE panel a couple of years ago and they didn't go through their panel from top to bottom like the public service. Instead they offered each job out to everybody on the panel and the highest person to express an interest got the job (a much better system than the public service offer it to 1st then 2nd then 3rd and if you don't like it tough approach). So basically you weren't obliged to put your hand up for a job you didn't want.

    If I were you, I'd seek clarity on their hiring proceedure and make sure to get it in writing so there's no confusion. There should be no issue contacting whoever ran the interviews.

    Anyway very best of luck whatever direction you decide to go in, these decisions are never easy but I think it's best sit down with a clear head by yourself, weigh up the pros and cons, make a decision and don't look back, you'll feel much better for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 stachOfPiroes


    Well, I contacted PAS to let them now that I was interviewed for a role in Clare although being located in Dublin and that I made them aware of this at the time of the interview offer. It was suggested that I take the interview anyway. I was then informed upon asking for an update on my current OOM position that I was next in line for an offer for Clare and asked if I would prefere to be located in Dublin to which I sais yes.
    I then received an email to say I have been moved onto an interview panel list for Dublin. So I need to go throgh the interview process again should I be reached on the interview panel. I won't hold my breath on this one.

    Thanks you to all who contributed to providing information it was very helpfull and much appreciated. I will be a lot wiser if and when a new opportunity ever arises.



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