Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Americans need and deserve a few decades of absolutely brutal dictatorship on their home soil so they'll learn a lesson for future generations

People have been waiting for Trump to come unstuck for about ten years, now. He will die, eventually, as we all will, but there's every possibility he'll do it peacefully at home, having faced minimal to no repercussions for his desecration of the office of US president and maybe even becoming stronger in death, in the sense that he will be transformed into an idealised icon for the MAGA movement to rally behind, kind of like those portraits of Kim Il Sung with the smooth skin and impossibly white teeth. Or it might all lapse into a hot mess, but the point is that his ignominy among all is far from a foregone conclusion, given how long he's already hung on.

It's probably been one of Trump's greatest helps in politics that he seems to have so many obvious faults that his opponents just think that nature will take its course in one way or another and he'll no longer be a problem. It's bred what can only be described as an extraordinary laziness, complacency and moral cowardice in many of those who stand against him. They've always figured that they don't really have to do anything. This was and is the Democrat approach to dealing with MAGA. For a solid decade and counting.

And what has it achieved? Not only is he still there, but he's consolidating power.

And in another surprise, they’ve sacked the guy who assessed the attack on Iran…

If you start firing people who provide you with honest but uncomfortable intelligence then you are setting yourself up to be misinformed and with all the military and political disasters that will ensue.

A new low in terms of sheer stupidity.

Putins survived on it for years. Trump only needs to knock out a couple more. He couldn't give a shìt if the place was nuked to bits, once he's gone. Although he's probably one of these twats who have them selves cryogenically frozen as the world just won't be as good without them.

I'm amazed that a whole set of voters, men and women who are parents to teenage girls, willingly give their vote to a man convicted of rape before a trial from the same set of men and women and equally to accept his walking into the changing rooms of the same set of girls, to accept it as normal for him to grab the genitalia of women whenever he felt like doing so as perfectly normal. I think it's reasonable to assume that the girls changing rooms would have toilet facilities attached to or accessible from them. These same men and women kick up a stink when a non-resident male is seen walking in their neighbourhood but not when it's Trump yet they still want to be seen as persons acting in a sensible adult/parental manner.

I need someone to explain this to me,really....

So why the fcck do we apparently need these vaunted Epstein files to prove he's a bad 'un?

@briany (the quote function isn't working properly for me)

I'll take a swing at this.

"We" don't need to prove anything. The Epstein files is a boogie man created by the far right and it ruins extremely deep in the MAGA psyche. MAGA have been told for years that there is a group of elite paedophiles, and to make them worse again, they're DEMOCRATS or Hollywood liberals. Trump *promised* to expose those paedophiles and therefore destroy the enemy of MAGA at the same time. That is all this is.

If he hadn't of built up this narrative, they would forgive all the appalling behavior, including Carol, the taped nastiness, the extraordinarily inappropriate comments about his daughter, under age pageants etc.

It's not about proving Trump is a bad un, or these files being the straw the broke the camel's back with bad behavior, which causes them to leave the cult of MAGA.

The Epstein matter exists on its own field. It's about an apparent capitulation by Trump to all these powerful paedos he swore he would deal with. Given the choice between thinking

A) the files don't exist and a core belief of theirs is not true or

B) Trump is hiding something

You are seeing some of MAGA going for the latter option, as it's slightly easier to stomach, given how far down the rabbit hole they are but also because of how distrustful they are of the political establishment in general

From the honourable J.B Pritzker, Governor of of the State of Illinois to the citizens of the U.S: CC to Don Trump and friends.

The State of Illinois at this time has received no requests or outreach from the federal government asking if we need assistance, and we have made no requests for federal intervention. The safety of the people of Illinois is always my top priority. There is no emergency that warrants the President of the United States federalizing the Illinois National Guard, deploying the National Guard from other states, or sending active duty military within our own borders. Donald Trump is attempting to manufacture a crisis, politicize Americans who serve in uniform, and continue abusing his power to distract from the pain he is causing working families. We will continue to follow the law, stand up for the sovereignty of our state, and protect the people of Illinois.