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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,345 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    A UI doesn't "need" a President lecturing the world about it. Given the turmoil across the world with many humanitarian issues, a UI should be down the list of priorities.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,324 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    FF are in a tricky position now, if they had a serious contender they would have announced him/her , so its either run a token candidate like Cynthia who would likely lose, Bertie who unfortunately the members like, back Heather which as the main party probably won't go down well,,,or MM could resolve this by running himself and he would win easily and I say that as someone who would need to be paid to vote FF.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,091 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Lots of pretenders to that throne of Irish Mammy.

    How about Sinead Burke for President?


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭dublincc2


    I think it’s very easy to dismiss him as ‘far-right’, while some of his views may be aligned with that he has also done incredible work exposing corruption and inefficiency, including stuff that RTÉ has later reported on.
    He is also ‘clean’ having just entered politics after the Dublin riots in 2023. So no skeletons, Assad is being discussed in Ireland right now more than he’s probably being discussed in Syria.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,879 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Government policy?

    Do you even know what the presidency is?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,879 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    He's a nobody. Politically and otherwise. Another overbalanced ego with a twitter account.

    Is it arrogance or naivety that has led to him believe he has the credentials to be First Citizen and Head of State of this country?

    I'm genuinely asking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    "Now is not the right time to discuss Re-Unification".

    Every f@#king year, the same partitonists using the same canard.

    When was the right time for the Dáil to first form?

    When a foreign Protestant dictator from an anti-Irish evil empire said so?

    No conflict anymore, country economically successful, huge population change into Ireland in the meantime, orange state is finished, SF the most popular party in the North, unionists getting Irish passports, Reform will win the next British election - but, there are wars somewhere in the world - like there always are - so let's just do another stupid referendum like lowering the age of the President to under 35 or removing a sentence in the constitunion which was mildly offensive to some morons with too much time on their hands.

    Robinson was a self publicist, a real phoney, SF's raison d'etre is to reunify the country they are correct to pursue this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    He would do well to avoid hanging around Eddie Hobbs*(the original Grifter) and the like, which he regularly seems to appear with, but I notice a lot of Delahunty's output is in fact highlighting absurd failures (and acceptance of same) of policing and justice in this country - for everyone, foreign and native - like the Emperor's New Clothes.

    'Make Crime Illegal' was actually on mark.

    That being said, most likely after publicity and the airgead.

    He is free to contest the general election, won't even have to seek a nomination.

    *Last year, Hobbs was a supporter of arch RTÉ west brit and loyalist supporter Eoghan Harris, referring to the latter's critics as "tribal nationalists", now Hobbs is taking selfies with IRA memorials in Cork and calling himself a Republican (though he is a partitionist and a former blueshirt).

    The weasel would do anything for money, as long as it is someone elses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,749 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Don't accuse me of making things up Francie. I have made up nothing.

    So… where exactly is SF's mystery candidate?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,643 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    That's your opinion only Seth. You are entitled to it.

    Nothing stopping a President addressing a number of issue of interest/importance to them



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,643 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    We have no idea what SF is doing/not doing just like we have no idea what Micheál Martin is planning.
    Pearse Doherty was on yesterday and said a number had come forward. Rose Conway Walsh 'didn't rule herself out'(interviewers words) on RTE yesterday either. Neither to my knowledge has MoN.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,879 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Well, there is. Its called Articles 12, 13 and 14 of the Constitution, and various provisions scattered therein.

    Michael D. may have pushed the envelope, but be under no illusion that there isn't an envelope.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,643 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,147 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Has he approached councillors from at least 4 councils to ask for a proposer and seconder ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,643 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/cons/en/html#part3

    Here is the Irish Constitution. The poster mentioned Articles 12 -14. He was probably referring to these provisions:

    "9 The powers and functions conferred on the President by this Constitution shall be exercisable and performable by him only on the advice of the Government, save where it is provided by this Constitution that he shall act in his absolute discretion or after consultation with or in relation to the Council of State, or on the advice or nomination of, or on receipt of any other communication from, any other person or body.

    10 Subject to this Constitution, additional powers and functions may be conferred on the President by law.

    11 No power or function conferred on the President by law shall be exercisable or performable by him save only on the advice of the Government."

    Over the years, Presidents like De Valera, Hillery, Robinson and McAleese have had widespread support among the population and haven't been divisive. Michael D. pushed the boat out a bit in relation to foreign policy with his support for despotic regimes in places like Iran, Cuba and Venezuela that contradicted long-standing foreign policy positions, but he generally stayed away from domestic political issues other than motherhood and apple pie aspirations.

    It would be different with a divisive President like MLMD. For example, if she called for a border poll in the North, when the conditions are nowhere near being met as at present, it could cause a constitutional crisis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,355 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Once you have far right aligned views, associate with far right figures and go on far right podcasts, you are far right. Lie down with dogs, get fleas.

    His election posters broke the law in multiple ways (no printer details, too low on posts) despite having his laughable "make crime illegal" thing on them; so his ability to understand exceptionally basic parts of the law leaves me having zero confidence he understands anything else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,643 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Those articles don't stop him/her.

    If the government don't have an issue he/she is perfectly able to discuss a UI.
    The government can stop him/her.

    Why would the government have an issue discussing a constitutional aspiration?



  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,803 ✭✭✭hometruths


    I don't have the fervent desire for a UI as others on here, but it seems pretty mad to suggest that the President of Ireland would be overstepping the mark to discuss the idea publicly.

    The President swears an oath on taking office "that I do solemnly and sincerely promise and declare that I will maintain the Constitution of Ireland".

    It is a role that is seen as the guardian of the constitution for the Irish people, a constitution that says "It is the firm will of the Irish nation, in harmony and friendship, to unite all the people who share the territory of the island of Ireland".

    Mickey D's opinions on Gaza etc were pretty off topic for a President. United Ireland would be very much on topic.

    In fact I'd much rather see SF on diplomatic maneouvres for a UI from the Aras than from Leinster House.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,749 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    That was an amazingly thick poster, reminiscent of the Euro election one years back with some fella "Stop The Paedophiles", it turned out that some people thought the guy pictured was one 🤣

    Tailor your message to your audience, perhaps. Like how the 419 emails with appalling grammar and spelling reel in the left hand side of the bell curve.

    Post edited by Hotblack Desiato on

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,879 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Blanch has it 10/10. No notes.

    Probably a post that Catherine Connolly could do with reading tbf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,643 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The constitution does not stop the President talking about a UI.

    The government invoking a clause ion the constitution can block the president talking about a UI.

    The question is, why would a government use the constitution to stop the president talking about a constitutional aspiration?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,879 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Its no longer a constitutional aspiration, remember? Thats partly how we ended the violence.

    But it is a government aspiration, and an aspiration of really every party in the Oireachtas. So that is where the matter will be moved forward. There, and in international negotiation with Britain, and the EU.

    Considering it is very likely that a Reform UK government will be elected in GB in 2029, a crucial period of groundwork on the path to a border poll exists between now and then. It will be of the utmost sensitivity. And having a relatively loose cannon in the Áras would be hugely detrimental to the diplomatic effort.

    The best thing the President can do, is to foster a close friendly relationship with the British head of state, ie the King, and with the people of all four nations, to show them by example that there is nothing to fear for the day-to-day lives of people in reintegrating the six counties into the Republic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭rdser


    What have humanitarian issues elsewhere got to do with a UI? Nothing. In my 50 years

    there has always been a famine or a war or whatever.

    This idea that Ireland must somehow fix the worlds problems is getting tiresome and utterly ridiculous. Martin and Harris behaving like they are some sort of world power that can lecture everyone else. It's nonsense and a distraction from our own issues.

    It's time our own interests are put first..for a change and if that includes a UI then humanitarian issues elsewhere shouldn't matter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,643 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Its no longer a constitutional aspiration, remember? 

    Constitutionally a united Ireland is the firm will of the Irish Nation, who the President is the Head of.

    Article 3

    1. It is the firm will of the Irish nation, in harmony and friendship, to unite all the people who share the territory of the island of Ireland, in all the diversity of their identities and traditions, recognising that a united Ireland shall be brought about only by peaceful means with the consent of a majority of the people, democratically expressed, in both jurisdictions in the island. Until then, the laws enacted by the Parliament established by this Constitution shall have the like area and extent of application as the laws enacted by the Parliament that existed immediately before the coming into operation of this Constitution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭dublincc2


    Maria Steen is also a wild card, but I think she’d get nominated.

    Always puts on an excellent performance in debates, her emasculation of M Martin last year during the referendum campaign was a thing of beauty. The reason she’s stayed out of frontline politics is because she’s homeschooling her kids but she has privately committed to becoming more active when they’re older.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,865 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Dana2.0 isn’t something the Irish electorate have shown any interest in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,147 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Has she approached councillors from at least 4 councils to ask for a proposer and seconder ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,649 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    By the Oireachtas or councils? Not sure which seems more fantastical…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,898 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    She wouldn't get nominated, so no point even thinking she would. She covers a minority of the electorate's view, there's no massive clamour for her views like.

    The fact she home schools should be a red flag to begin with anyway...



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