Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Possibly because US government is now such a shambles of half-thought ideas, corruption - and some finagling - it will be all the more difficult to disentangle when he is (eventually) gone, assuming that at some stage a president with any notion of integrity - of either party - gets in. He has created, and moved on from, such a morass of EOs based on Project 25, and his own vague notions, that it would take another decade just to disentangle it. None of this matters to him, he has made a lot of money, hobnobbed with world leaders in a position of strength, gold plated the Oval Office and left a permanent stain impression on US history.

He is so shallow that it is usually difficult to work out what he has actually said - his contributions to the international discussions on Ukraine in Washington were so bland and pointless he actually said nothing at all, and surely did not absorb anything the other leaders said, yet he gets to go back to Putin to agree to whatever Putin says.

He is too far gone in senility and self-aggrandisement to realise that he is held in total contempt outside the US - including his friend Putin. So many people have a hand in the till of the US and therefore find it convenient to support him, resulting in him being a very dangerous threat to world order and peace.

Exit through the gift shop…

Macron and the lads could have got Trump to agree to anything they want if they'd just bought a few hats, and said how much they loved them.

The following points could be considered by Ukr when trying to reach a a LASTING ACOMMODATION with Russia :-

(1) give equal attention to the Russian language throughout the pre 2014 Ukr

(2) Put up a statue of Putin in the Maidan Sq in Kiev and an epithaf chisled into it and passed by him

(3) guarantee the safety , security, respect for all things Russian, As per the pre 2014 border

(4) Ukr to never have any military presence of any sort within 5km of the 2014 border between both countries

(5)/Both countries agree a strategy to denazify their respective populations down to a level that it is no longer a threat to either governments

(6) bout countries agree to hold joint military exercises once every two years

(7) both countries agree to carry out a range of cultural exchanges

(8) both countries agree never to put tariffs on any imports from any trade between them

(9) both sides agree to come to a trade agreement that benefits each others economy

(10) both sides agree that aviation flights over each others airspace will be 100% respected and will take place unhindered.

(11) both sides will enter into joint commercial ventures such as developing oil and gas pipelines to serve some foreign markets

(12) both sides agree that all shipping lanes are available , unhindered, to both for commercial use

(13) both sides agree that they will inform eachother of any military exercises , joint or unilateral, and within one month of they taking part.

(14) both sides agree to never interfere in the internal workings of each others politics and economy and security

IN SUMMARY,

VZ is free to table. All of the above or cherry pick from same

They are designed to reduce to zero Putin’s fear of being ever attacked

I agree with you but my suggestions are to :-

(1(Muddy the waters

(2) flood the zone.

(3) counter proposals to Putin’s and have to be on the agenda

And all with a view to telling’/ convincing Putin that Russia is under no threat and all agreed SUBJECT TO RU Mo bing back to the 2014 border.
so , once the Russians are back home by all means it can attack again but I assume Ukr has sufficiently rearmed and with the support of ‘The Willing to guarantee security TO BOTH sides