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Who are buying all the new houses?

  • 17-08-2025 11:44AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭


    The narrative is that young people are locked out of the housing market and are emigrating, no jobs or no jobs in the area they want to work in that's not clear. I know young people in their 30s who have purchased houses, 2 couples, 2 and single people, they all report lots of other in their 30s are their neighbors normal average people with normal jobs, so what's going on?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,075 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Looking at average house prices, it would appear any young people buying houses must be in well paying jobs and/or have a large deposit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,806 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    Long commutes, and it's not the bank of mam and dad either, help to buy had helped a lot, I'm more wondering about the narrative that no young? person can house themselves along with the narrative that they have to emigrate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,075 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Irish people always emigrated, they always will.

    Id take this narrative you often hear that thousands upon thousands of young Irish are emigrating because of high house prices and high rents with a big pinch of salt. Yeah cos when they land in London, Sydney or Boston they'll have an endless supply of cheap houses to buy or find rent at €500 per month.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭Damien360


    Newbridge has a lot of cash buyers according to estate agents. Niece kept getting outbid. Roofers and tarmacadam guys buying loads. Never short of cash. Then on our road a couple of Indian families that also bought for cash. The newest housing estate is majority Indians and that's exactly who is on the early morning trains to Grand Canal. Must be coming with money as many buy the new electric car to go with the house.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,152 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    I lived in Sydney for a long time. I always find it funny when you hear people who are new there saying how they are renting near the beach and it's great. What they aren't mentioning is a house anywhere near a beach is probably €4k+ a month so they're most likely sharing a 3 bedroom house with 6 or 7 other people sometimes 8 or 9 in a house., sharing a room with 3 strangers in bunk beds and maybe someone sleeping on a mattress in the living room.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,075 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Exactly, but all the folk giving their views on Rte or the radio never tell you this, or are never challenged.

    Even on the BOC show today on rte1 I heard a panelist say about young people having to emigrate to get a house.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,058 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Its not really that complicated. Obviously the majority of people moving into new housing will be in the 30/40 range. However these will be people who are a) quite wealthy and b) have very well paying jobs.

    The majority of people in that age range are still unable to fine anything as we are not building anywhere near enough housing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,806 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Another trick is they just so happen to be in a very highly paid job where it coincidentally turns out theres a parent there that got them the foot in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,019 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Most new houses in Galway city have been purchased by councils or voluntary housing associations.

    Post edited by Mrs OBumble on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭csirl


    I live in west Dublin. A lot of house building going on, but very few for sale to members of the public. Majority are bulk bought before completion by the council, housing associations and companies leasing long term to the council.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    Well get better parents then….

    Seriously though I'd imagine the percentage of people in high paying jobs where parents got them in the door is very low. Not saying it doesn't happen but little to do with who's buying all the houses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭Eoinbmw




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    The Indian population of Ireland is 1.8%, so it's not all Indians buying. I am not talking about cities. 20 % of new builds are social housing, so 80% is not.

    I suppose it's not negative enough to hear about the plumber and legal assistant couple, for example, who purchased a house, ordinary people with ordinary jobs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭CatLick


    The Indian population is relatively young but also well established (30 something). AFAIK we are attracting the upper end of the caste system so no money shortage. My friends and I have a game where we count the number of Indians along a 1km stretch of a relatively prosperous road. Like a Strava segment. Record is 8.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    Again, I am not referring to prosperous areas, so no, it's not Indians in every area.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,019 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    20 % of new builds are social housing, so 80% is not.

    Nope. A miminum of 20% is required to be for social housing. But there's no maximum. I'm talking about entire estates, originally planned to be sold on the open market, but withdrawn from sale and sold to an AHB and now 100% social.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    I am sure that does happen, but the young people I am referring to are buying in housing estates that are for sale alongside other young people, that's if you count mid-30s as young.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,192 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    When I was a kid I played a game writing down number plates.

    I did it for about 20 minutes before I realised it was boring as feck.

    Do your self a favour and get a better hobby.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,033 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    My experience is very much like yours. I'm seeing plenty of young couples buying/building new houses. They're ordinary working couples and not in high level jobs. I know none that had access to the bank of mum and dad but they all saved hard for deposits. Of course it's a struggle but it was never as easy of some maintain to buy a house. A lot of the impression about the ability to buy a house seems to be drawn from the more expensive areas nearer cities, and I don't refute the difficulties there, but it's not as countrywide as we'd be made believe.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭CatLick


    Zero problem with super smart Indians coming here and boosting our tax revenue. Unfortunately they aren't bringing houses with them. When I was a kid you thought having a job meant being able to buy a house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,386 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    We have a pretty much net zero emigration rate,as many come back as leave. Plenty going to the UAE for a tax free deposit or even purchase.

    There's also a record 150 odd billion on deposit in Irish banks. Plenty of money floating about.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I have a relation who is in the mortgage business.

    They told me that young people are availing of some help to buy schemes from the government to help with the deposit etc.

    They also told me that young people are acting differently from how our generation did 20 or 25 years ago, they are saving earlier and are less flaithiúilach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,033 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    I agree they're saving earlier than they did 20 years ago. It's reminiscent of how young couples managed 35 to 40 years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,357 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    I expect a shift to a more conservative society. Young people are buying homes but they are shacking up and buying as couples in semi d land.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭soverybored1878


    You're either very bitter and jealous or you are a weirdo who needs to get a new hobby.

    Perhaps both.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭BKWDR


    Anyone who works in lending will testify that you ask an Irish couple to provide 12 month bank statement you will get multiple accounts with reams of pages of transactions. People outside of Ireland, eastern europeans and indians etc , likely a handful of pages. They spend differently and save massively. Something that is not case with a lot of Irish people who want to buy (hyper inflation and house prices not withstanding…)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭JVince


    People need to stop believing media and social media bullsh1t that people are locked out of the housing market.

    The media search for someone who will suit their narrative and then make it out that this person is representative of the market.

    I know people in their 20's that have purchased. Fairly regular jobs, joint income 100k or so. Plenty of apartments in Dublin in that range, plenty of houses in commuter towns in the range

    Now if you are in a minimum paid job or if you think you should be able to buy a large house beside mammy for 200k, then that person will be the type that jumps on social media and complains. The media elevate that voice because the media have no interest whatsoever in a positive story - then that view suddenly becomes the narrative because the politicians jumps on it too.

    Currently there are over 60 houses and apartments between Kildare Town and Newbridge under 400k. Assuming 10% deposit, that's a 360k mortgage. Say 3.6% rate, 30 years, 1650/month. That's very affordable for most couples.

    But the naysayers won't want to hear that. They just listen to those who say a recession is coming, prices will crash, world is ending etc etc. Sadly those same people listened to the same rubbish 5 years ago and have spent €100k on rent in those 5 years thinking prices will drop

    I bought in 2006 - at the height. I was a mover, so benefitted from a good sales price, but was spending 250k extra. Mortgage at one point was nearly 3k! Didn't regret it for one second even at the depths of the recession when it was valued 50% less than I bought at and even though it meant sacrificing holidays for some years. In 3 months the mortgage will be paid off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,386 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    If you're forking out a grand or two per month on rent a mortgage would be a gift.

    Availability is the key issue,as it it is in most of the developed world it seems for some reason.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,759 ✭✭✭blackbox


    I'm retired now, but I can remember when it was cheap and easy to buy a house....

    ....actually I can't.



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