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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Ok, well you could have linked that one the first time instead of an article that didn't back up your point…

    Internal nominations were open to multiple candidates. They only got one. There is no question of not "allowing" an internal contest, but clearly no one else pushed for it cause they knew there was no point - this is not unusual when there is a strong candidate.

    The idea that FG can't put forward another candidate cause McGuinness was their consensus candidate before is just wishcasting. No one is going to care.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,330 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Name them.

    Hes a dreadful choice because he is an incredibly divisive individual, you either love him or hate him, personally i despise the man due to his repeated interjections in Dublins transport infrastructure, he has opposed the Dart, the Luas and the Metrolink, hilariously he opposed the Luas by claiming we would be better served by a metro and now he opposes the metro by saying we need more light rail…..



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Such as? There is absolutely nowhere near 20 independent parliamentarians who would support him, the majority of our independents could not be less aligned with him politically if they tried.

    And he is dreadful cause he is a pontificating nimby blowhard who is desperate to stop any and all progress in the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 926 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    I don't give the Irish Presidency much thought but I would have liked McGuinness and I'm sorry to see her pull out, especially under those circumstances. I just don't want the Presidency to become nothing more than a publicity stunt or to be like some reality TV show prize to be won. I just want to see a competent career politician in the office who will be a good and dignified ambassador for Ireland. That being said, I'd still rather see Dustin The Turkey as president than Bertie!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭feelings


    SF are slow to decide on a candidate, but I suspect they’ll see a good chance and throw their weight behind Connolly now.

    Surprised by Mairead dropping out given that she was "not" out and about campaigning. 🤔



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I don't understand the logic of that at all. If anything this makes putting their weight behind Connolly less likely as it makes their own candidate a better bet to succeed? They gain nothing form backing Connolly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,186 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    What might have been....

    We'll never know now.

    All the best for a speedy recovery to Mairead McGuinness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,296 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    There aren't

    Try list them and you'll soon be in to people who either wouldn't go near him, or are in favour of Connolly, or both.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Potential Supporters for M. McDowell

    1. Sean Canney *
    2. Neol Grealish * (Former PD)
    3. Marian Harkin *
    4. Danny Healy-Rae
    5. Michael Healy-Rae *
    6. Barry Heneghan
    7. Michael Lowry
    8. Mattie McGrath
    9. Kevin Boxer Moran *
    10. Gillian O'Toole
    11. Micheal Collins
    12. Michael Fitzmaurice
    13. Richard O'Donoghue
    14. Ken O'Flynn
    15. Paul Lawless
    16. Peadar Tóibin
    17. Gerard P. Craughwell
    18. Sharon Keogan
    19. Rónán Mullen
    20. Carol Nolan **

    5 of those are in ministers of state but that doesn't deprive them of giving a nomination.

    ** Unlikely

    But it would be up to M McDowell to seek nominations, an independent might cross the floor to nominate, after all this isn't at all political. :)


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,296 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Aontu want to nominate Ganley and would never nominate someone with a PDs view on abortion, so you can take them off the list immediately. Nolan likely the same. Mullen wouldn't nominate someone with a PDs view on anything. An entire quarter of your list are single-issue anti-abortion, or damn close to it, representatives; McDowell is absolutely not anti-abortion.

    Mattie wouldn't have the time of day for him. Keoghan wouldn't nominate someone vaguely sane.

    All your unlikelys/Government members are basically impossibles.

    He has no path to Oireachtas nomination and never did.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I doubt this somehow. There is virtually no link between Connolly and Sinn Fein : she's a far left independent from the west of Ireland who counts the likes of Claire Daly and Mick Wallace as her buddies. No evidence she has ever moved in Sinn Fein circles or been close to them in any way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,678 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I wonder will they now speed things up because Mairead McGuinness has dropped out ? I think Catherine Connolly will come a cropper in the campaign given her statements around Syria and Russia and Ukraine.

    If you look at the first part of a statement it appears is pro Ukraine but there is always a but to her statement.

    They wouldn’t have the issue of multiple parties having to “support” someone through gritted teeth like some are with Connolly.

    Imo I think the McGuinness news will make it more likely they do run someone.

    I wonder who FG will nominate now though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,330 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    McDowell was strongly in favour of repealing the 8th so strike Mullen and Toibin off that list to begin with. I sincerely doubt the Healy Rays would consider nominating him either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,591 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    They'll all have to declare or get off the pot soon enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,829 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The way I see things playing out is that SF will now jump and nominate a user-friendly Lynn Boylan or Michelle O'Neill or Conor Murphy. As they know they will easily beat Connolly on first preferences and also get her transfers.

    Which will lead to a joint FF/FG candidate from the centre ground, in a more or less straight ideological fight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,591 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Allowing the electorate a swipe at the two parties of government would be interesting to say the least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,451 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,451 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    They certainly CAN and probably will put forward another candidate, but it's not a great look - bringing on the sub when the star player has gone off injured.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,558 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Well it certainly opens things up with FFFG now having to come up with a candidate and one of them is going to have to grit their teeth with whoever is the nominee. Interesting campaign maybe.



  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,802 ✭✭✭hometruths


    I wonder who FG will nominate now though.

    McGuinness' withdrawal has cleared a nice path to nomination for Tony Holohan. How convenient.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So then a good centre ground nominee for FG / FF politicians after all this isn't any way political.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,296 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    FF and FG Oireachtas members will never be given a free vote

    McDowell isn't going to debase himself touring councils with the clown car; unless he wants to lose business (as a barrister and writer)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,829 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Looks like you registered just to post something this stupid

    Scarlet for your Ma.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,638 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    SF will now jump and nominate a user-friendly Lynn Boylan or Michelle O'Neill or Conor Murphy.

    None of those would have a prayer of beating a strong

    FF/FG candidate from the centre ground

    Murphy would be lucky to outpoll Connolly. If SF actually want to win Mary Lou is their only man



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,883 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    The only way I see a formal combined ff/FG nomination is if the candidate is a non party member. So someone like Tony Holohan would fit the bill (I'm not saying he's a good candidate mind).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,330 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Whatever about council members going rogue or even just being let off the leash as in elections past there is no way Oireachtas members will be let nominate outside of the party, but keep coming up with impossible fantasy sceanrios if it amuses you.



  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,802 ✭✭✭hometruths


    Eh?! I registered in 2011, 14 years and the guts of 7k posts ago. Had never heard of Tony Holohan back then!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I just don't see this angle. Someone stepped up because the candidate has a serious health concern simply doesn't strike me as a)something anyone can bring up on the campaign or b)anything the public will significantly punish someone for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    Why would the two flat cap yokel buffoon Healy Raes vote for an intellectual like McDowell?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,591 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It will depend on who they chose imo.
    If they turn around and chose a FF FG candidate that woukd be an awful look and look like a scramble.



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