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40s and lost

  • 09-08-2025 11:18PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2


    First post. Just typing to get situation right in my head really.

    42 male. Married 37 female. 4 kids .

    On disability with schizophrenia. On medication , going to appointments . Everything going 100% fine for 4 years.

    Today my 14y son got very aggressive with my 7y daughter. I intervened and sent him to room, to a lot of abusive language from him. Wife intervened and told him to give up his phone. He got very aggressive and was in her face and went to attack her. At which point I shoved him away . Dint hit him , pushed him.

    At which point she told me to pack my **** bags and leave. Went down stairs to ask her where I was supposed to go. She said I should never put hands on the kids , I agree. I have never hit her or kids. Never.

    Heres where I'm confused. First I said do you want me to go sleep somewhere in the car. Her response was it's her car. So I said should I sleep in the shed to which she responds if you want. I tried to talk to her about finances and stuff but it ended with her going to bed and I was to do whatever I wanted.

    The thing is , I have no money. Like zero. I get disability but she takes it every week and adds it to family money including her wages. I get pocket money as she calls it of 80 euro per week to cover my expenses like phone credit, toiletries, hobbies ect.

    Everything else she takes and decides what to do. She lavishes the kids with concerts and holidays. Two coming up in September. England and France . She tells me I get to decide too but if I don't agree with plans she tells me I have no interest in her and she has to beg to do things. She tells me daily that I think she's too fat , or disgusting or I don't want to be intimate. She tells me every day that I'm distracted and disinterested. The thing is , as I've said , things are going great. I'm happy in myself and yes I'm quite , but I've never had quiteness in my head before.

    Anyway I'm rambling. Tomorrow I think I'm going to make a bed in the shed. At least I'll be close to the kids.



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,002 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    Go up and sleep in your bed where you normally sleep.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭BK5


    Ring Mens Aid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Don't do that, it's just going to escalate things, but you equally don't need to be talking/thinking about sleeping in the shed or the car, at all. Sleep on the couch or in a spare room tonight, to let everyone calm down a bit.

    Things got physical between you and your son this evening; that's going to have created a very fraught situation. And such situations are not the time to be having discussions with your wife or internal dialogues about your marital difficulties. I'm in no way dismissing any of your concerns about your relationship here, btw, but genuinely, now is not the time to be making long-term decisions. You're probably bit in shock, your adrenaline is way up and you (plural) aren't in a position to be making any big decisions. Sleep somewhere neutral in the house, take a bit of time tomorrow to process things, speak to a trusted friend who's in a position to be somewhat objective and then sit down with your wife and have a talk about next steps.

    Everyone's neck is up tonight and that's just a really bad scenario in which to be making decisions. It's a Disney lyric but it's extremely fcuking true - people make bad choices when they're angry or scared or stressed - you all need to take a bit of time to calm down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Yes sleep in the shed is the best idea I think…maybe look at getting into a b&b for next week after I think. I suspect your relationship is over so time away will help to accept that I think...all I can say is best of luck. ...an awful situation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Pajo_Smith_84


    Easily the worst possible advise, why the hell would the man sleep in the shed. As other posters have said, sleep on the couch. Try and have a mature discussion tomorrow about the situation and put a plan in place to get through the next few days, get on to a solicitor first thing on Monday morning.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    Suggest that you “ grow a pair “ . Sleep in your own bed and tell the person that you have protected from being assaulted to fkuc off.
    Bearing in mind that this complete story could be a wind up who the fkuc experiences something so dramatic as this and reaches out to Boards for support



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 jay marshal


    Its real , I just wanted to vent somewhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭anndub


    You all seem a bit reactive in general. Maybe I'm naive but ending a marriage based on a single event or words said in the heat of heightened emotions seems overly dramatic.

    Sleep on the couch tonight and have proper conversations with your wife and son tomorrow. You need to apologise to both parties and recognise you shouldn't have been physical

    The issues around finances and your wife's self esteem are separate conversations. They shouldn't be discussed in relation to the violence of the incident. You need marriage counselling for those.

    Things aren't great. Your wife sounds extremely unhappy and honestly you don't sound like you care



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,116 ✭✭✭jackboy


    If we are taking the description of the incident at face value then he should not apologise. He stopped his son attacking his wife. His intervention was appropriate.

    His wife needs to apologise for what she said to him and his son needs to apologise to both his parents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭anndub


    I strongly disagree. The incident could have been stopped by stepping in front of his wife. There was no reason to lay hands on his son. And considering his wife's reaction I'm not convinced the ops version of completely accurate.

    You lead by example as a parent. He needs to apologise to his son or are we encouraging the belief aggressive is ok as long as you are the bigger, stronger person.

    His wife is unhappy. He only seems interested in the fact that's he's happy. He's also completely melodramatic moving to the shed. Id say the 4 kids are loving living in that environment



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭feelings


    There is so much wrong with your response, i felt the need to respond.

    You have painted the OP as a villain in a complex and emotionally charged situation, and that kind of judgment isn’t helpful.

    He acted in the moment to prevent his son from physically attacking his mother. Suggesting he should have calmly stepped in front of her assumes there was time and space for that. It doesn’t sound like there was? He stated he didn’t “lay hands” on his son. He intervened physically to stop violence. That’s not aggression - it’s protection. Of course, physical contact should be avoided whenever possible, but sometimes situations escalate beyond words.

    Parents should lead by example. But that includes showing children how to protect others, how to stay calm under pressure, and how to reflect on difficult moments. Why should he apologise for preventing harm? Should he have sat back and let the son attack his mother?

    Calling him “melodramatic” for considering sleeping in the shed ignores the reality: he was told to leave, has no money and no car. What is the alternative for him, should he go sleep on the streets? He wants to stay near the kids.

    And your assumption that the children are “loving living in that environment” is not only cruel, it’s baseless. One difficult incident doesn’t define an entire household, and dismissing it as toxic is both unfair and unkind.

    @OP, it reads like your marriage needs help (aside from this particular incident), and marriage counselling is a good start.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭anndub


    I certainly haven't printed him as a villain. I'm not debating the situation was highly charged. I've stated numerous times emotions are running high and it is not the time for him to make further rash decisions I e. moving to the shed, or deciding to take what his wife said in the heatm heat of the moment seriously.

    Again, you parent by example. As a parent you often make the wrong call or react less than ideally in stressful circumstances. That's human nature. No one behaves or reacts perfectly at all times. That does not mean you don't own it afterwards or excuse it as ok because you were stressed. You can apologise by starting with an explanation of why you acted that way "it looked like you were going to attack your mother and with no time to think I reacted by pushing you". I'm not suggesting he grovels. His teenage was behaving appallingly. The best way to prevent that happening again is for open and honest conversation.

    He shoved his son hard. He did lay hands on him. z the version of events is sketchy at best considering his wifes reaction towards him. I mean if it really was a case of the wife or son I don't think she would be quite so angry at the husband for defending her honour. Even taking it at face value a shove is not acceptable.

    He sleeps on the couch. His wife is upstairs. she isn't standing over him forcing him to pack a case. Be reasonable. She said something when she was angry. Or is it just the op who gets grace for what they do when they're stressed?

    A 14 year old has hit a 7 year old, a father has shoved said 14 year old so hard the mother has told him to move out. Father is thinking about living in the shed. Mother is now upstairs in bed. It's a terrible environment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭Soc_Alt


    Hi Op

    Sleep where you want to sleep. Whether that's the bed, shed, car, couch.

    Your wife doesn't dictate the rules of the household the same way you dont.

    You're both adults.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,585 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    DON'T leave the house. Just sleep on the sofa.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    Ever ask yourself why someone in the middle of a domestic crisis would post on Boards.ie as a first source of advice . And then when advice is offered they totally disappear from the conversation. .? . Just another wind up as many more before



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,809 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    Specially if poster had no previous history of debate on the site. Like who the fook encounters problems in their domestic situation and immediately reaches out to Boards. Ie



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,809 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    No one.

    But this last year, this site is full of threads with controversial subjects, and when you look they are started by a new poster.

    Why would you spend time inventing stories on the Internet.



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