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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,240 ✭✭✭Field east


    this is yet another example of Trump going up to the line AND JUMPING OVER IT. It’s beyond incredible that he can fire someone that is telling as it is/ the truth and replace same that will constantly announce what Trump wants to hear



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,541 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Promises made, Promises broken.

    Oh, heck, it's just lies.

    "White House has no plan to mandate IVF care, despite campaign pledge"

    (https://archive.ph/bqfDX)

    FD: I'm glad the USG isn't paying for this nor should insurers. The US isn't exactly low on population, these procedures are extremely expensive and damaging to women and if the US had spare $$ to spend on discretionary health care, it shouldn't be this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,144 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Reckon there'll be some raging from the financial sector if they stop publishing the Payrolls data.

    Its one of the biggest trading days in markets every month. When I was trading myself you could make your months commission within the hour or so after the payrolls data is released.

    Whats the plan, stop publishing them while they're not great, maybe they know theres a bigger slowdown coming from the data they're seeing. Then suddenly start publishing again when the economy starts to turn the right direction?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,246 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    a listening exercise 🙂 Trump?!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,920 ✭✭✭threeball


    The economy isn't turning the right direction anytime soon. Certainly not under Trump. It'll be early to mid next year before you see the real devastation of the fallout of his economic policies. And it will take possibly 2 terms under a decently clued in administration before they even get back to where they started when Biden handed over the keys. And we're all going to feel the affects of this shortly, not just Americans.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,586 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I remember reading a quote from a Trump voter last November, who said "I voted for him because of his business acumen".

    I'd absolutely love to ask him how he feels now.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,753 ✭✭✭yagan


    They may say they're very happy with all the money Trump is getting with his tariffs, even though it's US consumer pays it.

    Sometimes people wish to be deceived, and sometimes people just want their world to burn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,932 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I was referring to the other time Trump imposed sanctions on the ICC

    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_14203

    The first time, is pretty standard American behaviour, close ranks on international institutions to protect themselves from being held accountable to international instititions.

    The 2025 executive order was to defend Israel from the genocide in Gaza.

    But that still does fit in with America's exceptionalism. The rest of Trumps declarations of national emergency were blatantly trumped up attempts to usurp state and congressional authority to act domestically faster and with less oversight than than was intended.

    The declarations of national emergency that Trump is fully intent on using, are intended to overrule the 'checks and balances' that we were assured would reign in Trump's worst natural instincts.

    Ban billionaires



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭Economics101


    I'm no fan of Bertie, but whatever he did in trems of corruption and policy recklessness bears no comparison to Trump. Was the head of the CSO fires, were court orders ignored? THe closest parallel I can find is one of Haughey's budgets (1981??) where the numbers were self-evidentally total nonsense.

    Don't say Trump is nothing new!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,729 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Aanyone who still thought he was a good businessman as late as last November is an idiot who will be easily fooled into thinking Trump is doing a great job now.

    Doing it since 1999 for no real reason on random days or during large crowd events (like NYE as someone mused earlier) ?



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,084 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    So I see the man who fires people who bring him news he doesn't like, asks for people to resign when they don't fall in with his source of truth, buries reports that might implicate him, defunds public broadcasters, forces rollbacks of DEI initiatives, encourages rioting when results don't favour him, is apparently backing a report that says Europe has human rights issues. Same report saying El Salvador is grand and, oh, let's scale back examining issues like LGBT rights or pesky government corruption…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 305 ✭✭Roald Dahl


    I saw an article in Der Spiegel last week about Switzerland and the 39% tariffs that Trump has imposed on them.

    I believe that I detected a tinge of good, old-fashioned schadenfreude in the article, but maybe that was just my perception. The headline read 'A nation miscalculates'. The ruinous tariff rate was set against the background of Switzerland having scuppered a framework agreement with the EU at the last minute in 2021, their vainglorious 'Made in Switzerland' theme song at this year's Eurovision and their rotating president's comments on JD Vance's arrogant speech at the Munich security conference, which were completely out of line with how the ill-received harangue was perceived by EU member states. The president, Karen Sutter-Keller, found Vance's comments "very Swiss in a certain way".

    With Switzerland having hosted China-US trade talks earlier this year, the Swiss were certain of preferential treatment in the court of Trump and would negotiate a tariff rate far lower than that imposed on the EU. Ms. Keller-Sutter had a telephone call with Trump to discuss these matters and felt assured afterwards of having successfully secured a better rate. Trump would subsequently say that he did not know who she was and that "she wouldn't listen".

    Trump's Independence Day tariff rate - announced for 1 August, which is Switzerland's National Day, as Der Spiegel pointed out - was initially to be 30%, then 31% and finally a disastrous 39% come 6 August.

    In light of this crisis, Ms. Sutter-Keller jetted to the USA to plead her case, but ultimately returned home with empty hands. She was at least admitted to the White House and met with Marco Rubio, but there was to be no audience with Trump. I am not really sure what the purpose of her visit was, as Trump was never going to meet with her. In my opinion Switzerland is simply not important enough to humiliate in front of the cameras, which would surely have happened if Germany or France were in question.

    I further read that Switzerland recently signed a contract for €6bn of F-35 fighter jets, which they decided on over French-made Dassault jets. This acquisition seemingly was approved by a national referendum, where it passed with a razor-thin 50.1% majority. It would appear that Switzerland deciding for the F-35s was hoped to endear themselves to the American administration. The Swiss have now been told that the final price could be one billion more and that further increases could not be ruled out, as opposed to a deal with the French, which would have come with a guaranteed price. There is beginning to be some kickback against this deal, with one official remarking that "The F-35 fighter jets have now become a political issue again. In the current situation, we cannot simply carry on as if nothing had happened."

    My own take is that the world simply cannot continue with the madness of Trump. There can be no solo runs, as Trump loves nothing more than world leaders running around after him like snivelling lackeys, for him to repeatedly ridicule and make spectacles out of them and for them to keep coming back for more. Attempting to curry favour with Trump is a fool's errand as his word is utterly wotrhless. His crude divide and conquer plan includes pitting nations against each other, as can be seen in the UK escaping with lower tariff rates than the EU and which doubtlessly is designed to entice other nations to leave the union.

    The Germans have a saying that I am very fond of: It is better to have an end with a shock, rather than shock without an end.

    The only answer to Trump is a global, united front. Trump and his tariffs are an open act of warfare against the world and should be seen as such. The rest of the world needs to act together and make very clear that an attack on one is an attack on all.

    This is, of course, all very naive thinking, but it would be great to see it happening. We can only dream.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,920 ✭✭✭threeball




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,920 ✭✭✭threeball


    Hard to feel sorry for the Swiss. If ever there was a country that wanted to run with the dogs and píss with the pups, they're it. No harm to see it come bite them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,729 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    There's a reason the can run and piss with whomever and I still think they are going to come back at Trump over this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,586 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    True.

    But he also might be a part of the "I can't believe the face eating leopard are my face" brigade

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,240 ✭✭✭Field east


    is Trump not waiting until the mid terms are over before he implements those EOs’ that will increase the cost of living



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,633 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    The on conclusion I can come to from that statement is that Trump really has a thing for being pissed on by Russians



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 305 ✭✭Roald Dahl


    Indeed. The article further stated:

    Switzerland's politicians and business figures believed that the nimble opportunism of the Swiss - to say nothing and stay on good terms even with autocrats and other authoritarian leaders and to profit handsomely from it - would also pay off this time.

    The 39% must have been some shock, oder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,432 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Why bother doing that when they can just gerrymander a few states, make it more likely that the GOP retain the House, and then he can continue doing whatever he wants.

    As a Dem Texas Representative pointed out on Fox News last night (before the interview was suddenly ended); "If Republican policies are so popular, why do they need to redraw these maps; why not run on their policies?"

    The answer is obvious. Trump and the GOP know the effect their policies will have on the American people and how votes in the midterm could easily shift to the Dems and make Trump a lame duck President, with the Dems blocking his policies and likely bringing Impreachment proceedings against him. But they can't make their policies palatable, so they're instead gerrymandering to increase their seat share that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,753 ✭✭✭yagan


    Voting for him once could be excused as naivety, but reelecting him was outright maliciousness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,426 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ah tis understandable, after decades of been screwed over by both parties, a 'savoir' appears, humanity has a history of this kind of thinking, and it has nearly always ended very badly!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,216 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Not sure if it's Newsome himself or some staffer writing these tweets but they're brilliant!

    All posts now (about Trump) are being written in the same posting style that Trump uses well worth a follow



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭freddie1970


    Brilliant that is what’s needed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    Almost as childish as Trump's imo. How farcical the US has become.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 305 ✭✭Roald Dahl


    I saw another one last night and let me tell you it was tremendously POWERFUL. Some are saying it was the most tremendous, powerful tweet ever.

    It went:

    DONALD “TACO” TRUMP, AS MANY CALL HIM, “MISSED” THE DEADLINE!!! CALIFORNIA WILL NOW DRAW NEW, MORE “BEAUTIFUL MAPS,” THEY WILL BE HISTORIC AS THEY WILL END THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY (DEMS TAKE BACK THE HOUSE!). BIG PRESS CONFERENCE THIS WEEK WITH POWERFUL DEMS AND GAVIN NEWSOM — YOUR FAVORITE GOVERNOR — THAT WILL BE DEVASTATING FOR “MAGA.” THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! — GN

    Keep 'em coming and absolutely flood the zone!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭Economics101


    You might not like the style of Newsom'e tweets: neither do I. But you have to fight Trump using weapons that have some chance of working. And leaving style aside there is no comparison in terms of truth v lies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,265 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Has to be favourite for the dems nominee in 2028 ? That is of course if he hasn't been jailed by then….



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,717 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I think the headline is stretching things there. The reporter asked a question, the PR lady gave a very PR-ish non-committal answer as they almost always do when faced with such a question, but because it wasn't outright denied the headline is "being considered."



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