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FáilteDAB: Coverage, Tests and Services

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  • #332
    Former Former Former
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,889 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123712765#Comment_123712765

    Yeah, would be great if we could get some more religious services on it.



  • #333
    vinnielo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭vinnielo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123712793#Comment_123712793

    You used to visit this website quite a bit, didn't you?

    http://www.radiofeeds.ie/


  • #334
    waywill1966
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭waywill1966


    Yes, Vinnie , still do! Keep checking your site to see if GHR are back on a webstream , quite like listening to it!



  • #335
    Glaceon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    Is this based on the BOB FM format from the US I wonder?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_FM

    Post edited by Glaceon on


  • #336
    Charles Slane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭Charles Slane


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123712793#Comment_123712793

    Their tagline is - "Playing whatever" and they say they play "random stuff". From what I hear this seems to be true - a wide mix of pop and rock. The last few songs have been - True Faith by New Order, S Express, Don't Stop Me Now by Queen, Two Princes by The Spin Doctors, Gotta Feeling by Black Eyed Peas, Sex Bomb by Tom Jones, Bad Guy by Billie Eilish, Time of the Season by The Zombies, Tainted Love by Soft Cell….



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  • #337
    Glaceon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123712773#Comment_123712773

    Yep, the web stream is for BOB is on their website:

    https://www.eastcoast.fm/player/bobfm/



  • #338
    Glaceon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    I've been listening to this on and off over the last couple of days. I'm familiar with the BOB format in the US, specifically WRRK-FM in Pittsburgh. This isn't it! One of the selling points of BOB is that they have a huge music library so you're unlikely to hear the same song twice in a short space of time. I can think of at least two that I heard twice in less than 24 hours - Beautiful Day by U2 and Obssession by Animotion.



  • #339
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,876 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123712758#Comment_123712758

    Considering Oinc have 9 named stations not available elsewhere and Bauer have 4 stations that are also available on FM, I can't see that fee being a massive amount. Which suggests more choice is on the way, good news for listeners

    The real question is if the fee is more or less than the FM equivalent, if less we could very easily see an FM switch off for the commercial stations



  • #340
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,734 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123732282#Comment_123732282

    DAB is vastly cheaper - the running costs per transmitter (for all 20+ stations on a mux) are similar or lower than a single FM station.

    However, the install base of FM is many times higher than the install base of DAB+ and will remain so for a long time.



  • #341
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,876 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123732303#Comment_123732303

    I'd imagine that the majority of the FM listeners are in cars and a growing number of cars have DAB receivers. When we are at home we use smart speakers for our radio. If it's as cheap as you say then FMs days could be numbered



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  • #342
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,734 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123732360#Comment_123732360

    All new cars have DAB+; but the average age of a car here is about 9 years old.



  • #343
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,876 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123732361#Comment_123732361

    It's been a legal requirement in Ireland (and the rest of the EU) since 2021 but has been available as standard in new cars since about 2016, especially if it's a UK import. So it's quite big and, more importantly, a growing segment of the market



  • #344
    waywill1966
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭waywill1966


    We have a 2012 registered imported Mini which has DAB on it but fat lot of good to us in Sligo.



  • #345
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,734 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123732453#Comment_123732453

    It will likely be DABv1 and still no use at that age. There's a 2019 Mazda in the wider family that is DABv1 even.



  • #346
    waywill1966
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭waywill1966


    I’ve picked up dab in Ni and the Failte Dab transmissions whilst in the coverage areas



  • #347
    JDxtra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,088 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Just chatting with someone today who had the same experience as me with radios in different cars.

    It seems some older cars (probably UK imports, 10+ years old) with DAB radios can recieve the DAB+ signal and play the audio. However, the quality is poor - audio sounds like it has a low bit rate and is quite flat. I can only assume these cars can't correctly process the modern codecs used on the service.

    Plus side: They can at least hear it. Downside: May give an incorrect impression of audio quality of the service.



  • #348
    vinnielo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭vinnielo


    There are car radios from that era that struggle with DAB+ broadcasts at 32kHz sample rate, (which all(?) the stations on Failtedab do). Give it 48kHz and it reproduces the SBR (and possibly PS) portions of HE-AAC v2 fine.

    But yes, they'll sound like medium wave without the whiney or cracking noises.



  • #349
    Former Former Former
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,889 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    The car radio will help DAB, but at the same time it is becoming the norm in cars, so are CarPlay and Android Auto.

    So the in-car entertainment market, like every other market, is likely to be more fragmented by Spotify, internet radio, podcasts and whatever else.



  • #350
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,876 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123732682#Comment_123732682

    Very true as well in fairness, and a good example of why the traditional FM broadcasters need to change with the times to lower their costs because there's a lot of internet radio stations competing with them out there.

    Important considerations with internet radio through AA and CP

    • Internet ie the 3G or 4G signals are still not as strong as FM or DAB in some parts of the country. The internet also struggles with latency when too many people try to connect to a particular service. Remember the old days of NOW TV when there was a big premier league game on
    • More button presses to get to these radio stations and a reliance on a 3rd party device (the phone) makes it more awkard
    • Internet radio can be up to a minute behind the live broadcast

    DAB solves a lot of these issues, in much the same way as FM does, but cheaper



  • #351
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,876 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123732453#Comment_123732453

    That's not a major surprise, the UK have had DAB since the early 2000's. Cars with the more expensive trim levels would have had a DAB receiver at the time but by 2016 it was much more commonplace



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