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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭Esse85


    It's sharing user feedback.

    Clearly ye don't want to listen to reasons why some members aren't contributing financially to this site, even when they can afford to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭Esse85




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,952 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,297 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Yep I became less likely to pay when I saw that shift in rules for the sake of making a now extreme demographic happy. I'm also not really feeling like Odhran is being remotely transparent TBH.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭Esse85


    There's about 5 points made in what you quoted, which point(s) isn't true?



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,952 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I don't know why we waited until the site allegedly has weeks to live before this started happening as well.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭yagan


    I would contribute if I was sure that I wasn't funding a platform that allows spamming.

    Allowing that behavior reduces a discussion forum to basically social media where any fool can keep reposting unsubstantiated material as fact.

    Is the subscriber version of this site focused on being an actual discussion forum with standards or just another platform for scutter like social media?

    I've been busy with house stuff while we've had good weather but the next rainy day I might pay a tester subscription.

    If the same shysters that spam up threads about Trump and Ukraine are allowed to span the subscriber version unchallenged then I see zero point renewing.

    So be it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,952 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,804 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Agree with that. Time and time again in the politics and current affairs forums for example, you see a mod banning people who they do not agree with. It is just an echo chamber now, with everyone agreeing with each other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,046 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    The issue at hand is keeping the site running.

    I'm happy to pay for that and have done, there's issues aplenty regarding how things are running in different parts of the site but you can't remedy them if the site isn't here to begin with.

    There's also people from this site posting crap on reddit lambasting the owners and bemoaning the general situation here.

    You know who you are and it's not good enough. Cop the fvck on ffs.

    Glazers Out!



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,952 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Since my account hasn't been deleted yet (I've asked for it to be, so presumably it will be in due course), I might as well weigh in. I intended to subscribe once I heard that moderation was going to be more balanced. In fact I was happy to throw in a bit more than a sub. I was delighted when I saw that the immigration thread was finally being allowed to have two sides, rather than Necro banning anyone he/she disagreed with. Being a bit of a cynic however, I said I'd give it a week to see if this was reality, or a ploy to try to get a few subs in before going back to business as usual. Guess what? After a week, the thread is back to being one mods personal propaganda machine again. Now the sub is nothing to me, I pay multiple times that for newspapers I hardly read and streaming services I never watch (and that I never remember signing up for - that's what happens when your adult children know your credit card number), so I would be happy to contribute even if I wasn't using the site much. However, I won't sign up for one specific reason - I pay a large amount of tax, both personal and business, and a lot more of this tax than I'm comfortable with already goes to pro-immigration propaganda. Between RTE, The Journal, The Irish Refugee Council, the Immigrant Council of Ireland, etc. I am already involuntarily paying more than enough to promote a one-sided view of mass immigration, and have no wish to voluntarily add to that. If Boards had kept going with fair and balanced moderation, I would be happy to contribute, otherwise, no thanks. If you really want to stay alive, surely there is government funding of some kind the site can obtain? Given political leanings of at least some of the moderation team (and presumably the owners), there is surely a taxpayer fund for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,823 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Literally no post can’t have immigration attached to it on here. Thats why plenty won’t subscribe. Its so **** tiresome

    Get rid of politics, make after hours HEAVILY moderated and keep all the useful sub forums and maybe it’d have a chance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 701 ✭✭✭Dogsdodogsstuff


    I’d actually be ok if they site ended up filtering out all the immature adults who are incapable of discussing topics in good faith and retained those with a capacity for some self reflection. I understand it’s less financially viable but I’d spend more if it was a site with common sense posters who can recalibrate their emotions responsibly.

    I generally stay away from CA and the more demented threads full of children bickering. Maybe there could be specific threads that are members only where there are more rigid standards of discussion or debate. In particular it would have members who have a better understanding of each other so if a person asks a question that could annoy some , like , for example , “is Trump not just a symptom of a wider divide in politics and how disillusioned people are in general” it’s not automatically met with derision and discussed in its merits. Less “you are right/left , Putin apologist stuff” and if there are people obviously on wind up they are out.

    A paid community can agree on harsher rules and if the site doesn’t actually rely as much on advertising, then the owners will have to take on board members consensus.

    No doubt the people who regularly get banned or infractions will disagree. Do these people ever consider that they are their own problem ? People who seem to have a lot of drama in their lives or fall foul of infractions quite often think they are in the right and victims of other people. I find a lot of them simply don’t see how obnoxious they are at times and even if/when they are correct on something, their behavior is what gets them in trouble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,491 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I agree. I think when it came to deciding what group of people to keep happy, they backed the wrong horse. The cohort that want to post unverified stuff all day with wild abandon in CA - and those who might actually pay for the site mightn't have a lot of overlap. Though maybe page views and "engagement" are through the roof, I dunno.

    I paid up in the end because I thought I'd hate to see boards go under: something would be lost in that and I use it everyday and have for years and it's still a good resource. And fifty as a once off goodwill payment was okay.

    And, in a way, getting 600 subs is, in my view, actually not that bad, considering that almost nobody is entirely happy with how the site works and hasn't been for years. It's hard to see how the site gets to 2K though.

    I know there's an element of fires being fought in real time and total disclosure about everything isn't feasible, but I also feel that some of this "save boards" project has been so cack-handed.

    Post edited by Arghus on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,231 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    It's feedback but as someone that's been involved in voluntary organisations and fundraising the reality is a lot of people are happy to take anything that's free and will not contribute because they don't have to. In fact a lot of people won't contribute unless there is a social pressure to, which is why face to face fundraising is a lot more effective than online or virtual.

    It's a tale as old as time and is the usual reason clubs, societies and charities fail.

    And it will be the reason if this drive fails too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Anti/Pro Water charges

    Anti/Pro Referendums/Treatys

    Anti/Pro Vaccine

    Anti/Pro Immigration

    All of the above have happened over the last 15 years with various accusations about bias/moderation etc on boards. It has also had people calling boards an echo chamber at various points on these topics

    The fact there is constant debate and people feeling passionate one way or the other is what sets Boards.ie apart. Other social media spams an algorithm to intensify your already held beliefs. This is one of the places where they get challenged and its why I like reading it.

    All of the above topics and posts on them are actually excellent insights into to Ireland at the time. If boards does hit the wall, hopefully the site will be archived



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭ECookie13


    We need proper debates on hot topics, both pro and anti, otherwise Boards.ie just becomes another lopsided platform that silences opposing views in favour of whatever narrative the owners or moderators support. Its a key part of Boards and has the legacy record of all the viewpoints.

    Look at reddit: left-leaning views are heavily promoted, while opposing ones are virtually always censored/deleted. On the flip side, twitter has become a haven for right-leaning perspectives. If someone can't handle reading viewpoints different from their own like an adult, maybe head on over to one of those websites pls.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,649 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    I'd happily pay if the likes of CA, AH and Politics were gone.

    We have seen in the last few posts an example that the kind of rubbish that goes on there filters into all sorts of threads.

    I hate most of this place but I'm still here because there are still great resources on it.

    But if it's a case of life or death for boards dot ie I'd chose death right now, I'll somehow find those valuable resources elsewhere and I won't miss the stupid $**t that goes on here.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,952 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    What evidence is there that Reddit heavily promotes left wing views?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭ECookie13


    Seriously? I'm guessing you don't use the site much then, the bias comes straight from the top. It's even mentioned on its Wikipedia page that it's a left-wing platform. Just type reddit & left wing into google for some examples.

    But anyway, that's beside the point. We're talking about Boards.ie here, which is more balanced thankfully.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,231 ✭✭✭MrMusician18




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,952 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    So absolutely nothing then.

    It's tedious seeing people constantly defending horrible behaviour by pretending that everyone is horrible.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,952 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭ECookie13




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,952 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    So, you can't elaborate on your silly conspiracy theory at all?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,231 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I suggest you post some threads along the lines of "we need to control migration", "There is no housing crisis", "Water charges were a good idea", "I think Pride is too pervasive and has lost its way " or "Maybe SF, Labour and the SocDems don't have all the answers" and see how you get on.

    r/Ireland is firmly on the left. That's not to say you can't see right wing views there. With the exception of traveller related topic they mostly get buried in down votes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,470 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    While I'm confused on what the moderation changes have been, Current Affairs and Politics are two of my main interests on the site.

    I don't understand why you think they should be removed. Don't use them if you don't like them?

    Anyway, this is really off topic and should belong in a feedback thread imo.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,952 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,421 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Here's the other issue, re-regs (more than likely banned) to make a few pointless comments saying how mods and everything here is shíte yet they continue to come back until they're rightly banned again.

    Post edited by Big Bag of Chips on


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