Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

AFAIK, the coffee came part-processed to Switzerland and the process completed and packaged there to go on to the U.S.

On the Canada/U.S tariffs front, I think some of the goods went to and fro over their border several times as the processing of steel and other products was done on both sides affecting the way tariffs were laid on the finished goods. If the same was applied to the finished Swiss coffee products, there might be a reduced tariff rate applied to the coffee, otherwise a cup of Joe will be dearer next month in the U.S.

35% of the unroasted coffee that the U.S. imports comes from Brazil, where depending on what time of the day it is Trump is threatening with either 50% tariffs or the first figure that comes into his head, so the price of that cup of oe is only going in one direction.

If these tariffs are intended to force companies to produce goods in the U.S. then following the moron`s logic he must believe that over 99% of the bananas and coffee the U.S. consumes can be grown in the U.S. In which case the man is not just a moron, he is seriously deranged.

The problem is that the US is losing credibility. For many the US has become an unreliable partner for economics and for military. This is all thanks to Trump.

I would suggest that Trump has maybe another 5 to 7 years to live, but whoever follows him as the next president would have a lot of rebuilding to do.

Trump wanders around aimlessly on the rof of the Whitehouse.

MAGA "Look at President Trump doing what he wants… LIBS hate this"!

One of the potential impacts of tariffs is that a company exporting a product such as coffee beans to the US, and reliant on those exports to survive as a business, might lower the costs (and profit margin) of their product, so that the tariffs to be paid are reduced, and the product is more affordable to US importers.

I think the point in the post you quoted is that Brazilian exporters now have more other markets and contracts, meaning that whatever reliance they had on exporting to the US market (which might cause them to lower prices) is reduced.

Loves himself then, old Fred had to send him to a miltary school @ 14, as he was thick as a turd even then, to try and force discipline on him to at least study, it failed and plagarising of exams continued.

Probably also where he picked up the "spurs" trick to avoid serving his country with military service.

Rehearsals for "Assassinations Part 3".

Agreed. The whole 'but Americans will have to pay more' is only one side of the story.

Exporters who are reliant on the US importing their product will also suffer. Thus, Brazilian coffee producers signing long term deals with China makes them less reliant on the US market, and therefore, less likely to sell to that market at lower margins.

I think the US will take decades to rebuild trust with the other major trading blocks of the world. Trumps behaviour has turned them into an untrustworthy pariah state. You cannot negotiate with people in bad faith and there is no doubt that major countries will now start slowly looking to withdraw dependance on the US. It is impossible in a global market to completely withdraw from contact/trading with a large economic body but there will definitely be a rethink.

People believe that the US as the major economic giant in the world can continue to dominate but history tells us that all dominant empires eventually end. Some last much longer than others but all eventually get overtaken.

Is this the beginning of that slow decline for the US?

Another Trump peace envoy has arrived in Moscow to try get Putin to accept Trump's latest peace offer, increased tariffs and severe economic penalties, ahead of Trump's deadline. Failure is not an option in Trump world, best of luck, Steve Witkoff.

From the Peace Art Collective on F/B: Love the cartoon.…

Same with a 79 year old.