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Star Trek: Strange New Worlds S3-E04 "A Space Adventure Hour" ***Spoilers Within***

  • 31-07-2025 05:18PM
    #1
    fritzelly
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    Well I thoroughly enjoyed that, holodeck explained why not on any more ships

    The outtakes were good, trying to decide if that was a good channelling of Kirk at the beginning…caught my ear anyway

    Spock/La'an - no thanks, don't wreck her character

    JF directing pretty much guarantees it's gonna be a good episode



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  • #2
    Spear
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    I've been critical of the whacky episodes in the past, but I liked this one. The old holodeck goes off the rails is a tired trope, but they manage to make it seem new by giving a context that also fits in the larger canon. There's some very pointed satire of the TOS and it's production, including some pointed digs at Shatner's acting style. Plus even a fake blooper reel to top if off.

    The Spock banging his way through the entire crew arc that's started though, that seems kinda hamfisted though.



  • #3
    knucklehead6
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    the riker manoeuvre got a proper laugh from me tbh.



  • #4
    Tenzor07
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    The new Captain Kirk playing William Shatner… Brilliant!! 🤣

    WhatsApp Image 2025-07-31 at 19.50.57_84f34019.jpg


  • #5
    Spear
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123687224#Comment_123687224

    With Frakes directing too.



  • #6
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,221 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123687235#Comment_123687235

    Except he can't even play real Kirk for laughs. He is just terrible.

    I was mostly just bored during this. Some of the 4th wall stuff about TOS was good though and the bloopers were properly funny.

    Sickened that we might get more Spock drama though after just wrapping up the Chapel sht.



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  • #7
    Tenzor07
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123687365#Comment_123687365

    He can play William Shatner though! 😁

    Anyways sure we could sit here all day saying "Oh the new Doctor Who is nothing like Tom Baker therefore he is no good"

    I mean does Martin Quinn look like James Doohan?



  • #8
    breezy1985
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123687412#Comment_123687412

    You totally missed my point. I am saying his Shatner impersonation was crap.

    And ya can't stand new Scotty but it's nothing to do with him not being like Doohan.



  • #9
    Tenzor07
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123687618#Comment_123687618

    Sure sounds like you completely don't like SNW at all!



  • #10
    LambshankRedemption
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    As another critic of the so called whacky episodes, I have to say I did enjoy that.

    To be honest, my only criticism of the episode was La'an and Spock kissing at the end.

    In the Academy thread someone said it is going to be like Grey's Anatomy meets Saved by the Bell in space.

    SNW is turning into Grey's Anatomy with central characters falling in and out of love with each other at the drop of a hat.

    Yes, I used to watch Grey's Anatomy.

    4/5 for me. Minus 1 for that kiss.

    I kind of like the route they are going with Scotty. What would be worse is if they went the route of that engineer from Disco, can't remember her name but she could basically fix anything.



  • #11
    squonk
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    2/5 for me. They have 10 episodes per season and this was pure filler. We had more of that with the Q episude but it was fun and quite like one of the silly TOS throwaway episodes. This was a bit too on the nose for my taste.

    Spock/La’an… please stop this stupid story arc. I was fine with Chappel but this seems way out of character for Spock.

    How many times in TNG have we seen the holoddck go togue and endanger the ship! The glass onion murder mystery thing wasn’t that interesting and the episode was pure filler.

    I did like the blooper reel and the shatner impression but the stuff about ST being great was basically the show drinking its own kool aid. Star Trek is important to us all. We wouldn’t be here writing this stuff if it wasn’t but it just seemed very self congratulatory.

    I’ve normally loved the throwaway episodes but this is the first that has just landed flat for me.



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  • #12
    CastorTroy
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    Hate to say it, but I can see why they might think Last Frontier was cancelled.

    For someone who was supposedly emotionless, Spock seems to do really well with the women.

    Speaking of, how is Christina Chong 41. I googled her expecting her to be much younger.



  • #13
    eadrom
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    Not great, but pretty good! Took me a while to get into it and I preferred the stuff off the holodeck, which there wasn't enough of, but a good episode by the end.

    Great looking episode, too. The bridge bathed in that bright white light looked incredible. Rebecca Romijn looked incredible as her holodeck character!

    La'an and Spock are a much more interesting pairing than himself and Chapel.

    I'd have liked if the holodeck was a little less capable or something. Like rendering occasional low polygon furniture or glitching or being confined to a smaller space. Aside from the power problems it all seemed just as good as it would 100 years later in TNG.

    Enjoyed it enough anyway, but still hoping for some stronger episodes this season.



  • #14
    fritzelly
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123688070#Comment_123688070

    Thought they all played in to their characters really well but yeah missed opportunity there for holo-glitches



  • #15
    squonk
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123688070#Comment_123688070

    Havebt gone off to check with cannon but I always had the impression that the holodeck was something new in TNG. I mean that the galaxy class ships were the first to be equipped with it. They certainly had more than enough power to run them but I agree with you that it shouldn’t have been as perfect as it was.



  • #16
    AMKC
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    Ms


    Just watched it. The first 5 minutes I was like WTF us tge Sh-it. Then it got right then a started thinking if they are going have holodeck this most be some alternate reality and not Prime Trek then they fixed it and I was happy. The Riker manoeuvre and the fake plooper reel at the end were the best parts.

    I don't mind the Laan Spock think. Not much we can do about it now anyway. It will either lead to somewhere or not. We will just have to watch and see.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • #17
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,388 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123688129#Comment_123688129

    Not saying you're drunk but my brain's auto correct clicked in there



  • #18
    LambshankRedemption
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123688130#Comment_123688130

    Watching SNW at 1.40 in the morning. You'd kind of have to be drunk.



  • #19
    breezy1985
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123687638#Comment_123687638

    I'm slowly getting that way. Every new wacky episode, overly dramatic love story and TOS legacy character is bringing the show further from the things I loved about the show at first.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123687884#Comment_123687884

    The whole holodeck story was just used as a way to make La'an realise she loves Spock. Like it couldn't just be a fun story and has really be about some over emotional plot.

    We have already done this with La'an and Kirk which has me worried they are setting up some Kirk/Spock tension down the line.



  • #20
    Stark
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    Found this one quite tedious tbh and I normally like the whacky ones. The murder mystery was boring, generally felt like Data and Moriarty watered down.

    Spock/La'an seems like a good pairing only we're just out of the Spock/Chapel melodrama so it's a bit much this early in the show.



  • #21
    liamtech
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    For me its probably the poorest episode of the season. Not horrificly bad, not a real stinker. Id go 4/10.

    I think it was done in a whacky sense of the word, to make us laugh and reminisce about TOS. The fact Kirk wasnt actually in the episode earns a docked point for me. Had he been in the episode it would have made slightly more sense to have a holodeck character created in his image. but just having the actor appear as an obvious parody of kirk - meh

    I normally like the SNW hilarious episodes - they usually entertain, but this one just didnt land fully.

    I couldnt help remember the SG1 episode 200, and how it was made in a similar fashion, to entertain viewers and make them laugh. 200 succeeded entirely, and i will sometimes just randomly rewatch it for the hilarity of it all. Im off topic here, but i am sometimes in tears laughing when the furlings appear, and are subsequently wiped out by the Gould. Carter does a kind of shoulder shrug as if to say 'sorry, nothin we can do - bye'! And the Kirk parody was class too, if a tad too short.

    Comparing to this episode, it just doesnt land. I wouldnt skip it in a rewatch, but the only time i would ever go back to it, is if i was going to sit down, and rewatch the entire series without skipping any (except the singing episode of course)

    In support of SNW though, i will say that if this is the worst we get, we are doing well! Its still a good show, no question

    Post edited by liamtech on

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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  • #22
    liamtech
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123688267#Comment_123688267
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123687365#Comment_123687365

    Id respectfully disagree with you on the actor who plays kirk. If u leave this episode aside, i kinda like him. he is respectful of the character in previous appearences, and seems to channel something. He was knocking it out of the park in the time travel episode (tomorrow and tomorrow) - He just captures something of Kirk, while not doing parody of the character

    Thats what kinda bugs me about this episode tbh

    In terms of the show as a whole, I am probably overly positive about it. The thing is i understand your frustration, bringing legacy characters into the show is unnecessary. And i do wish they would stop, but id say it will continue. I think its a negative, but the good episodes outweigh the bad by a large margin, and thats why i remain enthusiastic.

    In the back of my mind though, I remember Discovery, and just how horrific it became as the seasons rolled on. I had been over-enthusiastic, and forgiving in season 1 and 2 of disco, only to be burned as the show deteriorated badly. It almost makes me embarassed when i read my reviews for earlier Disco outings.

    I think SNW would have to literally implode for it to utterly fail as Disco did. The fact that it is episodic, and comprised mainly of bottle shows, will save it as a Trek series, because we already had so many good eps. And there have been a few that measure up to the best of Trek in my view.

    Hopefully they get back to more serious entertainment from now on.

    As for Laan - i suspect she dies at the end of SNW - she has made too many connections with legacy characters now - which is a shame because i really like her - but yes i think they will 'rogue one' her

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • #23
    breezy1985
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123688583#Comment_123688583

    Discovery always had a ton of problems which they tried to fix with each new season and just made it worse. Each new season was an attempt to placate fan criticism rather than confident writers doing what they believed in.

    SNW is different because it started very strong but they seem to be very keen on legacy characters and comedy episodes which doesn't suit me. You say "the good episodes outweigh the bad" but just taking this season it's been a Gorn episode full of plot holes and 3 "concept" episodes that bored the arsse off me. I had high hopes for the zombie episode but they were only a footnote and irrelevant to the plot.



  • #24
    liamtech
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123688613#Comment_123688613

    Id say while remaining positive, i would have to agree that the first 4 episodes of S3, are poorer than the first 4 of the last two seasons.

    Id still be optimistic, and next weeks one looks like its a time travel ep, and so far SNW has done well with these - im hoping for an epic. we are due an epic at this stage!!!

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • #25
    Spear
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123688655#Comment_123688655

    I'd agree that so far I'm not impressed with season 3, with one being on-rails and predictable, and two being whacky. But on the other hand that's pretty much the allotment of whacky episodes used up, leaving almost all the rest for more serious stuff, even if it is only 6 remaining.



  • #26
    liamtech
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123688672#Comment_123688672

    definitely hoping for a switch up back to serious trek - and yea i think by the looks of the trailer, thats all the goofing around out of the way!!!

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • #27
    eadrom
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    we’ve still got the “Four and a Half Vulcans” episode to come later in the season, so not totally done with hijinks yet.

    But yeah a shift in tone for a while would be welcomed, not the strongest season so far.



  • #28
    breezy1985
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123688672#Comment_123688672

    We still have the episode where they are all disguised as Vulcans to come which looks like it will possibly be a comedy episode too.



  • #29
    Tenzor07
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123688267#Comment_123688267

    I thought it was brilliant! Getting back to the episodic Trek rather than massive Arc's like the Xindi ..

    Holodeck was great to see rather than having to beam down to some random planet and get played by some "advanced aliens"…

    And was great the way the 1701 computer wasn't able to handle the processing power and Pike vowed to bury it… until 1987 that is! :-D



  • #30
    breezy1985
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123688900#Comment_123688900

    It was episodic is season 1 too so I have no problem there. But in season 1 the episodes were brilliant and that's the difference.



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  • #31
    squonk
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    I think maybe we’ve had too many faff episodes in one chunk now. Absolutely it’s miles better than Discovery which is a plus but I’d have preferred if this was episode 7 maybe with a few serious episodes in between.

    Having slept on it, what feels off to me now is that SNW did some seriously heavy lifting and Trojan work to reimagine TOS in a way that we could all get behind. I remember when the ship and crew showed up on Discivery just hoping they’d run with a TOS prequel show because Pile looked great and the ship was fantastic. Thankfully we get regular episodes now and it’s great but, after all that, they went out of their way to do a schlocky TOS parody. I don’t know, it just seems strange and kind of wrong. Against my expectation I loved the musical episode.

    What killed it for me early on was mention of the holodeck. Holodeck on TNG was fun for a while but it was abused as a plot device. I was completely down with Worf’s calisthenics program or a few in-plot uses but it wasn’t long before, even being a big fan, I groaned when it looked like we were in for a holodeck episode. Same here except it was even poorer than a regular TNG episode and we’ve seen it all before.



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