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Hyundai INSTER

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,350 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Auto-hold is one of the best features of a modern car 🙈



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,024 ✭✭✭daheff


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123680399#Comment_123680399

    Having driven it home with autohold on, I didn't mind that.

    What I did mind is the pinging from the speed sign changes....even after turning the sound off (allegedly) it was still telling me of every speed change.

    It's a nice car to drive. Don't really notice when you put speed up on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    I liked auto-hold until I had to park in tight spot. Much easier to park with it off, so I left it off. Now I enjoy how it handles in a queue of traffic (e.g. at lights) where the car will just take off as I take my foot from the brake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,350 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    And does that seem like good driving? 😂

    The very worst thing about an automatic car is "creep". Kill it now!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭EV01


    disagree. Creep is a useful option to have - or not, if you h8 it

    That’s what the ‘flappy paddles’ are for - use them like gears and you can:

    • creep if you want to
    • or use ‘I-Pedal’ (one pedal) driving if you want to
    • or switch between them using the varying degrees of regen according to need (what I do)

    In some situations ‘auto creep’ is very useful (millions around the world find it so, me included)

    And in some situations ‘I-Pedal’ is better eg what @Bacchus said: “I liked auto-hold until I had to park in tight spot”. He’s absolutely right - AH makes the car almost impossible to manoeuvre in tight spots (like concrete multi-storey car parks) as the car lurches forwards no matter how gently you press the accelerator. The reason is obvious - the car is having to do 2 things simultaneously: release the brakes and actuate the accelerator at the same time. It simply cannot do both of these smoothly and in a controlled manner (for whatever reason), which you really do need when you’re just inches away from an expensive encounter with a concrete pillar! 😮

    Having turned off AH I’ve now left it off permanently. I love driving the car without. Maybe there will be some situations where it might be useful, but so far I haven’t found any.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭EV01


    ”I think we're going to take out the floor in the boot… We need the extra height that removing that floor would give”

    If you do decide to do that then all the charging cables, tyre inflator, hazard warning sign and much more (toolkit, torch, gloves, kneeler, emergency 12v charger etc) will easily fit in the sizeable rear ‘frunk’ that sits underneath the second boot floor. Simply pull out the moulded polystyrene shape thing and use cloth or thin bubble wrap around the outer rim to prevent any rattles (see previous pics posted showing how this looks). That will give you a much bigger boot for everyday use, even with the back seats pushed right back.

    And if you decided you want to keep the ‘privacy cover’ in the car ‘just in case…’ then it will fit under the flappy floor covers if you move the rear seats slightly forward (personally I just keep it in a wardrobe for when I eventually sell the car - if I ever do!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,350 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    If the Inster is "lurching forward" while attempting to park with auto-hold enabled then something is wrong.

    Maybe it's a generational thing, but I find parking is easier and more predictable with auto-hold enabled. In no situation does gentle application of the accelerator cause any unpredictable behaviour. Quite possible the Hyundai way of delivering motion from a resting position is a bit snappy compared to other marques, in which case I can see how it might put off a driver.

    With the Tesla version of auto-hold I can inch forwards/backwards at a finer rate than I could while massaging the brakes without auto-hold.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭Bacchus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭EV01


    why are you posting “authoritatively” about the Hyundai Inster in a Hyundai Inster thread when you don’t own or drive a Hyundai Inster?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    It feels like you are making more of "lifting my foot off the brake" than is needed. I'm not "massaging the brakes". I'm in traffic (e.g. queuing for a lights) and my foot it just on the brake (no effort, just there). When traffic starts to move, I take my foot off and it accelerates to about 5km/hr. It's a very smooth, controlled lift off and if traffic picks up pace, I'm on the accelerator. With the paddles (behind the wheel) set to auto too, the car will stop for me in that traffic if it stops again.

    And you're probably on the money there about the auto-hold. Hyundai just have a "snappier" way of going from "hold" to "move". There's no way I'd ever switch back to parking with auto-hold on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭xboxdad


    Useless to me.

    I love auto-creep.

    Driven 90k kms in an e-Niro, Ioniq 5 and Inster combined - all with auto-hold off and auto-creep on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,350 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    I see a theme here 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 mustyrocks


    Hi All,

    Picked up our Black Inster 49kwh on 1st July (ordered in March).


    Loving it so far. Mooney’s Deansgrange were excellent throughout the process and afterwards.

    The last two weeks I am trying to see what kind of mileage I can get out of a full charge.

    Radio and AC off and drive in ECO mode.

    Generally about town driving of short distances.

    328km down and telling me I have 72km of range left 18% charge.

    How close to zero charge can I get? Anyone pushed the limits yet?

    I believe there is no option to have the car start in ECO mode (safety regs) but happy to be corrected.

    In terms of EV electricity plans, so far, they all seem to be rip offs with high standing charges and daily rates and our monthly mileage not justifying a move to an EV tariff.

    Average looks to be about 150kwh consumption for July works out at around 30 euro for the month for home charge.


    Great forum and lots of useful tips on here. Cheers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    My read of the EV plans is that you really need a battery system in place to maximize the advantage of the "EV" rate overnight and offset the peak rate. That's another cost though so only makes sense if you were already intending on a solar/battery system. Without that, I agree… you're saving what? about €200-250 a year charging the car but overall not much better off due to peak rates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,350 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Don't worry about turning off AC or the radio - neither have an impact in a modern EV.

    The "EV rate" from the major players is a way of lulling you into expensive daytime prices, while seeming to offer a low night rate for a short few hours. At your monthly EV consumption you would be paying over the odds for all your other electricity usage - it's quite misleading on behalf of the electricity providers. if you're not yet on a Smart meter, and for some reason don't want one (they are a good idea) then consider a standard day/night plan from one of the major outfits. Energia have a 25.5c/12.5c day/night plan that gives you a 9 hour night window. Whatever you do, stay away from 24hr meter plans - there's literally no point in these for anyone, anywhere.

    Ran my Tesla battery to -3% in January this year. No turtle mode, no unexpected behaviour other than the usual few alerts on the screen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 mustyrocks


    Thanks for feedback and yes your reads are right on EV plans and on a nice 33% discount rate with Bord Gaia right now and smart meter so no intent to change. No solar or battery plans.

    On the impact of AC and radio on or off. The Inster forecast Km drops by a good 20/30 km with them on. Hence my approach.

    Also another question.. I am averaging around 11.7kwh per 100km… is this good bad?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,350 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Are you specifically looking for a soul-less EV experience? 😂

    All newcomers to EV go through this fretting phase, then they emerge from the chrysalis of uncertainty and get on with driving and enjoying their car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Exactly. There may the (very) rare instance where I'll want to do a long trip in the Inster (where an extra 20km) might be needed but otherwise the average day is going to be about 30-40km… so 5-6kwh… ish. The AC has a 4% ish impact on range (give or take depending on if you're setting it to 17C vs 20C). That AC is gonna cost between 1-2c a day to run (based on our usage).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 mustyrocks


    No one mentioned fretting. Merely experimenting, it’s part of the joy of a new toy. Seeing what it can do. Thanks for the concern.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭xboxdad


    On short journeys the heat pump wouldn't make any difference as 1st the old style PTC heater heats up the cabin and only then can the heat pump take over to sustain the temperature using less energy.

    Our e-Niro didn't have a heat pump, our Ioniq 5 does and there's no meaningful difference in average city use.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Sorry, I don't follow what you're saying here. On short journeys, the aircon (heat pump) won't make a difference to the temp?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭xboxdad


    I meant it wouldn't make any difference to energy consumption. As it wouldn't play any role in heating on short journeys.

    Also, the optional extra that we call "heat pump" is only for heating. The standard cooling-only air conditioner that all cars/trim levels have does share the technology with the heating "heat pump" variant, but it's a separate system - even on cars with the optional "heat pump".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 mustyrocks


    How does something that needs power to operate and generate heat or cold not affect power consumption? Thanks for explaining



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭EV01


    of course it does

    despite YTs claiming (yet another) perpetual motion thingy😄

    the car consumes around 1kWh battery energy at low a/c setting (cooling) in ‘Utility’ mode - not far adrift from a domestic portable a/c unit? - but the a/c element will be less than that (‘Utility’ mode itself will be consuming power in the background)

    counterintuitively it will have less impact fast driving (significantly less than 10%) and greater impact pootling around the neighbourhood



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭cromelex


    I think they just mean that it's not significant. Not worth worrying about.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,423 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    It felt cheap because it is a cheap car.
    And there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s the segment it’s in.

    As someone else said, if you’re the type of person that drives a car and likes rubbing the dash board and the trim to feel the quality of the plastic, then a cheap EV like the Inster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Yes 11.7 is low consumption in any EV. Its a bit artificial what you're up to though.

    I have Renault 5 so another small EV and its at 14.1 over a month and 1000kms but I've been driving the nuts off it the odd time and just normally mostly, with aircon on very cold these days and radio/Spotify/Google maps running and my phone wirelessly charging

    I could get it down to 11 or 12 I suppose it's reckon I could get a much bigger, heavier and more powerful tavascan down to 14 at the very best but wouldnt think it's worth it to be honest.

    Turn on the radio, cool the cabin, enjoy your car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 cohaolain


    Over 10,0000km in my 49kWh Inster! Delivered February 20th.

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    I'm still absolutely loving this car. It's been on a fair few "long" journeys already, plenty of the time at 120km/h, sport mode, not being remotely conservative with speed.

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    Some highlights:
    Dublin <-> Giants' Causeway and coastal drive (530km)
    Dublin <-> Offaly (260km round trip, many times)
    Dublin <-> Belfast (350km round trip)
    Dublin <-> Galway & Tuam (~450km round trip each).

    Almost all charging at home (6.33c/kWh 2-5am w/ Bord Gáis), and a little bit also at work (free!).

    I calculate I've spent about €175 on public charging, most of that at ESB+Ionity+Fastned.
    I've charged about 1260kWh at home, costing approximately €80.
    So I've spent about €255 over 10,000km!

    Charging to 80% all the time, unless I've a long journey planned the next day.

    Only once have I had to charge more than once - on the 530km trip to the Giants' Causeway.

    The Belfast trips just need a single charge at Ionity Belfast or Fastned Banbridge. I was in Belfast last weekend, and we hadn't finished our Tim Horton's when the car was charged enough to get home from the Ionity!

    Plenty of chargers in and around Galway.

    Visiting family in Offaly, I plug in the granny charger for a few hours to make sure I've a bit more buffer for the drive back - never any issues. Plenty of fast chargers on the way back too if needed, in Kinnegad, or Ionity Dublin!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭EV01


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    @cohaolain wow, that’s a swanky charge station!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,350 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Yep, where's that charge station? Looks great. Guessing somewhere in NI?



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