What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Note in Post #3372**

I certainly do care about Pte Rooney and all the other soldiers put in harms way without the ability and mandate to protect themselves properly.

As for your opinion re juvenile/uneducated… you know what they say about opinions…. every Mehole has one!

Feel free to follow me all around boards ❤️

They'll have to sort that out alright.

The decision to censor the content was made by X rather than being demanded by government. I imagine this is a test case and we'll find out if it was a mistake or the proper use of the law. If it's the latter, then it's wrong.

There's no obligation to watch any news to vote, or to have any level of information at all. Someone can get their news from Facebook and GB News and go to vote based on terrible misinformation. I think that's bad and not allowing some voters to see some news is also bad. It should be fixed. The law is only a week old, so they can and should fix it.

Yeah they could only get misinformation from the ministry of truth (though i wouldnt recommend it) and be allowed to vote too. Or they can get no information at all and still be allowed to vote. So the ability to vote isn't tied to the information the voter does or doesn't have.

So, what's the point of bringing up censorship only in relation to the 16 and 17 year olds when news consumption is so obviously not related to ability to vote for any other age bracket?

I think you give old people far too much credit with regard to their critical thinking. The success of genuinely terrible news sources which are primarily marketed to them shows they don't know news from propaganda any better than anyone else.

2% of the population have actual dementia and still have the right to vote. About 1 in 10 pensioners have dementia and they're the most reliable voters block. So I don't think people are really serious about worrying that voters aren't well enough informed. They just don't want young people to vote.

And we don't stop people with dementia or beliefs about carbon taxed from voting. So. If even being compos mentis isn't a prerequisite for voting, then I can't see any reason a normal 16 year old shouldn't have the right to vote.

Is It more ludicrous to suggest the dementia sufferer is more able to vote than a normal 16 year old? Seriously?

We take away all kinds of rights from people with dementia. But for some people, the vote is so important that it can't possibly be removed from someone with dementia, but also isn't important for 16 year olds. I can't get my head around that kind of thinking.

If the argument isn't about understanding the issues at play, then what is it about?

true enough, and this is commonly due to untreated psychological conditions such as significant trauma, preventing the brain from evolving into a more mature manner.

my arguments are somewhat based in the above, we may now be experiencing a time whereby many teenagers could very well be making far better decisions than some voting adults, adults with significant trauma, tend to make poorer decisions including drug taking, and other dysfunctional behavioral problems, so reducing voting age, may in fact result in better voting outcomes, maybe

as above

Just to keep it clear in my mind, have you taken back the claim that taking the vote from dementia sufferers would cause harm and substituted that it wouldn't solve a problem? If you still claim it would cause harm then let's stick with dementia for simplicity.

I haven't advocated for removing anyone's right to vote. I brought it up because it shows that the person's right to vote isn't dependent on their ability to understand the politics.

On Your third point, it isn't abusing the system to help a person with dementia to vote so why would anyone spend time and money to measure the number of people doing it?

OK. Will you explain what you mean when you say taking the right to vote from dementia sufferers would cause harm?

I'm not aware of anywhere that takes away the right to vote from dementia sufferers. I'm aware that lots of countries take away other rights. The right to make legal decisions is an example.

Now that I answered your question, would you answer mine?