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Garda gets 7 years for inciting men to rape his colleague.

  • 29-07-2025 01:23PM
    #1
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,860 ✭✭✭


    Why this guy got away with a 7 year sentence is absolutely astonishing. Not alone did he want his garda colleague raped he wanted her children raped and killed. Pure pot luck that none of this happened. This judge should be fired, today!

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  • #2
    osarusan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,926 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2025/0729/1525872-shane-flanagan-sentencing/

    Link



  • #3
    easygoing39
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭easygoing39


    Because he was a cop.In Ireland we also dont give a proper sentence to gaa players/solider's or bankofficial's.



  • #4
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,213 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Because the crime was non violent, it was conspiratorial.

    Probably just as damaging on his victims, I'll grant you, when it all came out, but thats what I'd be expecting roughly for such an offence.

    And keep your stupid conspiracy nonsense about sentencing of Guards, when it comes to convictions, they tend to get sentences that are if anything more severe, for the betrayal of trust and powers attached to their jobs.



  • #5
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,860 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123680045#Comment_123680045

    I agree no violence occurred but that was not thanks to ex garda Shane Flanagan. He wanted the woman and her children raped, cooked Ffs!, How in the name of jesus does that warrant only 8 years, and the judge suspended the final year!



  • #6
    Eoinbmw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭Eoinbmw


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123680045#Comment_123680045

    Do you believe he was given a tougher sentence for being a gaurd?



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  • #7
    ledwithhedwith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    Horrible horrible story, but Im surprised he got 7 years. Its just the terribly lenient way we sentence.



  • #8
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,860 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123680312#Comment_123680312

    I'm gobsmacked tbh that the judge gave such a lenient sentence. This character is IMO worse than Graham Dwyer. He wanted her and her children raped,tortured cooked ffs.i know through pure luck there was nobody physically hurt but I genuinely believe he should be locked up for 20 years.



  • #9
    volchitsa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,185 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123680045#Comment_123680045

    How much would you have expected a civilian to have been given for conspiracy of this sort? It certainly doesn’t seem excessively heavy to me, even for someone who is not a Guard so I don’t really see how it’s significantly harsher, unless you think they would only deserve 6 months or a year?

    Moreover, the victim was a Garda officer too: if differential sentences are the norm for criminal cops, couldn’t we also expect that a guard deserves more protection than the average person too? That’s why for a long time we still had a possible death sentence but only for killers of guards etc.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • #10
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    Jesus what a sick ****. Hope he gets his own medicine.



  • #11
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,957 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123680474#Comment_123680474

    As much as this guy is an absolute monster and I reckon he should have definitely gotten longer than 7 years, I'd be a bit reluctant to use terms like 'worse than' in relation to Dwyer. If we're going on hypothetical 'what may have happened if things turned out differently', then:

    GRAHAM Dwyer allegedly suggested strangling and burying an Asian mother-of-two who was a neighbour of Elaine O'Hara, as one of a number of potential "victims", the Central Criminal Court has heard.

    In a series of text messages, he also allegedly discussed killing, raping or stabbing a prostitute, a homeless woman, an estate agent, women walking in the woods, "a rich woman" and Ms O'Hara's sister.

    The texts retrieved by gardai had been sent to Ms O'Hara's mobile in 2011 from a phone the prosecution maintains was used by Mr Dwyer.

    The user of that phone also suggested four ways of killing Ms O'Hara: handcuffed, hanging in the bedroom; stabbed in the woods with her clothes left in her car near the sea; wrists slit in the bath; or a stabbing and "fake robbery".

    Ms O'Hara stated in a text she was "too young to die."



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  • #12
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,860 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123680530#Comment_123680530

    Yes you are right I shouldn't be using terms like "worse than or better than" but I certainly don't believe this character is going to be rehabilitated when he's out in 5 years time. I believe this guy should have got a similar sentence to the one given to the guy who planned to kidnap Holly Willoughby. I also absolutely believe that the sentencing judge today should never be allowed on the bench again.



  • #13
    longrunn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭longrunn


    This is insane. The guy should be locked up for life, there's no chance of rehabilitation for someone that sick. Hopefully he never makes it out of prison. Also caught with child porn and gets concurrent sentences for that. 7 years and someone like this is back on the streets, exposed with nothing to lose. What kind of damage can he end up doing when he's out? Sentencing in this country is an absolute joke.



  • #14
    ledwithhedwith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123680474#Comment_123680474

    Oh i compeltly agree, but if you pay attention to irish sentencing I dont see how you are surprised at all. My guess would have been 4-5



  • #15
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,252 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Given the maximum sentence for incitement to rape is life, 7 years seems pretty lenient.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • #16
    csirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭csirl


    What's going on in the Gardai. This follows on from a run of multiple coercive control prosecutions of Gardai over the past 2-3 years. What sort of people are they recruiting?



  • #17
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,952 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I heard about this case yesterday and it rocked me. The world is become a very sick and scary place. Especially the online world.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #18
    Juza1973
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭Juza1973


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123682293#Comment_123682293

    Some people try to be the authority so that the authority can not stop them. It seem that this ex-Garda was not successful in doing so though, as we was already kicked out by the Gardai. He must have then tried to get his revenge, and he failed again.



  • #19
    aero2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭aero2k


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123683499#Comment_123683499

    If I understand correctly, the offences took place in 2020, but he only resigned in March of this year (presumably he would have been dismissed otherwise).



  • #20
    Hangdogroad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,080 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    Weird looking fcuker. He looks like that actor from Fair City who was beating up his partner in real life.



  • #21
    slay55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭slay55


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123682293#Comment_123682293

    standards drop when they are so short of numbers , pretty much take anyone it would seem



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  • #22
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,548 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    That's a crazy story. Lad will be out and interacting with the public again in 4 years.

    He should have been found mentally unwell, because he is. And he shouldn't be released until an entire team of psychiatrists think he's ready for it



  • #23
    SupaCat95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123684149#Comment_123684149

    Wow you think it will be that long? The real punishment is that he has lost his Garda Pension, his job, friends on the force, the wife is going to divorce him and take everything with the kitchen sink, on the sex offenders list and nobody will employ him afterwards. That looks like a very lonely outcome. Can the female Garda sue hm in a civil case?



  • #24
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,548 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123684213#Comment_123684213

    Those aren't punishments, they are consequences; and if you think about more they are salvation for him.

    A punishment would be him getting treated like anyone else and sent for those 4 years (or less) to general population. Either that or been placed into an insane asylum with no determined release date



  • #25
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,586 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Nutty as a squirrel.

    Should be a full audit of any cases he was involved in that led to a conviction, particularly if it relied on his word or evidence.

    That level of deranged fantasy has to spill over into other areas.



  • #26
    littlefeet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭littlefeet


    He's completely nutty, not least because he must have known he would be caught; no one is anonymous on the internet; he seemed to be living in a fantasy land, extremely immature. I wonder if he had any relationships with women. I know the vast majority of individuals on dating apps are grand, but somehow or other, there does seem to be far more nutters around or maybe it's just the internet in general.



  • #27
    irishproduce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,849 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    A curious aside

    If the duped punters from online had carried out the activity and it went ahead, would they have been liable for conviction considering they were completely duped into it?



  • #28
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,279 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123684730#Comment_123684730

    Yes, it would have been rape.



  • #29
    extra-ordinary_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123684730#Comment_123684730

    There was a rape case in France last year, similar but different…

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd75v8eqz44o



  • #30
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,548 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I'm not 100% sure they would have been culpable of rape had it happened. If they would have been; then why are they not culpable of conspiracy to rape already?

    It's an interesting question to ponder. Hopefully some legal heads can answer it



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  • #31
    irishproduce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,849 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123684791#Comment_123684791

    I think that case is totally different. Those men in France knew what was going on but in this case could a lawyer prove that his clients were entirely duped into an awful crime and as such wouldn't have been culpable?

    Remember (and I'm not trying to be little the extreme seriousness of what transpired) that this was meant to a kinky game of giving consent to be forcibly raped at a surprise moment. The punters involved would have been none the wiser to how realistic the response would have been, for they'd have thought this was all part of the consent non consent fetish.



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