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Donald Trump the Megathread part II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Apparently Epstein had photos of Trump in a compromising position with women of an indeterminate age. The photos were in his safe and he showed them to biographer Wolfe. Those photos would certainly explain Trumps anxiety ridden behaviour the last few weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,082 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    In fairness he is on a moving plane.

    I know Leon Black likes to bring the ruckus but I can't imagine he is into underage girls.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Anas Alhajji.

    Because he speaks from an energy market perspective without any emotion, and seems a political from what I can make out, thoroughly knowledgeable on what was happening around oil and fuel supplies during the Iran conflict, I suggest you give him a listen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,064 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Meanwhile in the real world… while more can be done to enhance the effectiveness sanctions, they are clearly having an effect as documented below. So if you are going to claim they are having 'zero impact' on them, your claim has zero credibility without backing it up. Of course you won't though will you, as you are just dumping misinformation without foundation:

    The Russian natural-gas industry, primarily Gazprom, has struggled with the consequences of decoupling from the EU market, as it lacks a viable business model to compensate for the loss. The oil industry, on the other hand, has managed to weather the sanctions better, albeit with significant loss of revenue due to heavy price discounts in Asian gas markets and sharp increases in the cost of shipping oil to Asia. The party that has suffered the most from Western sanctions, however, is Russia’s state budget, which saw its revenues from oil and gas decline 24 percent in 2023 compared to 2022.

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Oil-gas-and-war-Vladimir-Milov.pdf

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,309 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It seems that people have forgotten that Trump wanted Palestinian territory, aka the Gaza Strip, for a beachfront tourism zone just a few months back and wanted several other local countries, not including Israel, to accept the Palestinian Arab local population as immigrants. Obviously he never planned for the U.S to take in those Palestinian Arabs as immigrants.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,279 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I'm pretty sure based on Erlich's postings that he thinks that's a genius idea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,954 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Anhajji's view is that sanctions basically never work, and he slots his views about EU sanctions on Russia into that preconception. You'd have to conced that his view is at one end of the spectrum of informed opinion on this question.

    And he has to contort himself into some fairly awkward positions to maintain this view. For example, he has maintained that EU sanctions have not meaningfully disrupted Russian energy exports, and also that Russia has shifted markets and reoriented exports. These can't both be true, without some fairly heavy qualification.

    He focuses on the fact that Russian oil production by volume has not signficantly fallen, while overlooking the fact that Russia's oil revenues have declined signficantly, as exports have been reoriented towards markets who take advantage of Russia's situation to demand substantial discounts, and as Russia suffers higher transport and frictional costs. Russia's oil revenues are about 70% of the pre-war level, meaning that they are currently missing out on about USD 60 billion per year. You may consider that to be "zero impact", but I don't think the Russians will see it that way.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Meanwhile the EU are purchasing Russian oil dressed up as an alternative source at higher prices, so no Russia hasn’t suffered greatest, whilst they may have suffered some on other sanctions it’s the EU citizens that have suffered more. I have no desire to change anybody’s mind on this thread, you can believe what you wish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,388 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Wasn't there a number of lawsuits filed and then dropped claiming Trump and Epstein raped an underage girl who was only named as Jane Doe in the filings.

    You'd have to imagine there were big payoffs outside of court which were not reported as settlements in court.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,279 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    EU citizens absolutely have not suffered more than Russian citizens. Inflation in the Russian economy has been going wild since the war started. So nope, this is you in fantasy land. The hits to the Russian economy might be slower but they've been in serious trouble and it only gets worse.

    https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20241128-chronic-inflation-hits-russia-as-huge-pay-increases-fuel-rising-prices



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Not a genius idea, but a better alternative to waving Palestinian flags about the place, if it stops war then I’m all for it, if it prevents one further Israeli or Palestinian person dying then it gets my vote, I understand that a majority on here could live with further deaths if it means Trump doesn’t get credit for any peaceful solution in that area but I’d always vote for a solution which prevents deaths over any ego of mine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,954 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    You can't imagine Trump is into underage girls? Why ever not? You're talking about an adjudicated sex abuser who makes lewd comments in public about his own daughter — a daughter he introduced to Epstein when she was just 11 years old.

    I'm not saying that Trump has engaged in sex with underage girls. But allegations that he has are not new, and it wouldn't surprise me greatly if evidence emerged that he had. Certainly nothing we know about him makes it unimaginable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,082 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I was making a joke about Leon Black. I said nothing about allegations against Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,064 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Meanwhile you haven't produced a single shred of evidence to back up your original claim.
    And when challenged you totally change the meaning of your claim from "zero impact on them" to this.
    Again without zero supporting evidence.

    Proof you know your original claim was false and you couldn't stand over it.

    You can believe what you wish based on whatever pro Russian pro MAGA propaganda crap you're being fed online.
    But when you post that crap here, expect it to be challenged.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,279 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    He also suggested removing them from the land entirely. You think Trump's ideas of ethnic cleansing or genocide are a decent idea. You don't care about deaths, Trump continues to support Israel and you haven't said a word. He has favoured taking the land of Palestine from Palestinians and you see nothing wrong with that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,945 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    From “I don’t know” to “he stole her” in about 5 seconds. Might be the first bit of truth he’s told all year…after telling a lie first, of course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “It seems that people have forgotten that Trump wanted Palestinian territory, aka the Gaza Strip, for a beachfront tourism zone just a few months”

    That was Israel’s green light to bomb Gaza to kingdom come and starve out the Palestinians until they agreed to move- and most of us said so at the time - all I see here is Israel doing what it said it would do, with total American blessings



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,309 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It's my own opinion that Trump's dislike of other nations people dying in wars is more based on preventing U.S. boots - edit; getting involved in other peoples wars on foreign soil and dying there - rather than in preventing those other nations peoples dying there. That might be one explanation, sorry though it might seem, for his remarks about the deaths of U.S soldiers abroad. He absolutely sees no benefit in it for the U.S. and the families of the dead and injured.

    Churchill was all for jaw, jaw rather than war, war but knew when to stop appeasing the belligerent.

    Given the guff Trump has come out with AND his present position on Ukraine and Gaza, it's almost a 50/50 on whether its his ego (the MAGA switch-off) or his probable loss of voters that has caused him to change stance and start trumpeting about peace between warring countries. He might have sensed a change in the wind pattern.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,183 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I think he does not give a damn about benefit for the US or the distress of families of the dead and injured. All he cares about is what looks best for him, and the general concensus is that it looks better to his followers if US soldiers do not die. He cares even less about enemy deaths. He has learned the 'preventing deaths' thing like a mantra, he doesn't actually care.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭Rawr


    More so, he still thinks he’s getting a Noble Peace Prize. Just give it a couple of months when he finds out that someone else has won it and his insincere «peacemaker» phase will come to a crashing end.

    Donnie doesn’t give a fiddlers if US soldiers or other people die in wars. He just wants another trinket to go with the FIFA trophy he stole and some way to one-up Obama. Wouldn’t surprise me if he threatens Norway with 100% Tariffs if the Nobel Peace Committee don’t change their minds or some such childish nonsense.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭Starfire20


    because a poster i was replying to asked why the dems didnt release the list when they had power.

    i replied that it was because bill clinton, and possibly other dems/dem donors, was on the list.

    again, i dont care what party affiliation someone has, if they're on the list, they need to face justice.

    do you agree?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,016 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    They probably also thought, we dont need to publish it, when Trump was out of power, because there was no way Americans would vote an impeached, convicted, insurrectionist in again...who would have believed that???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,505 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    The post you were replying to was mine.

    I made a point regarding the probable legal difficulties surrounding the release of information pertaining to the people involved.

    You reply was one which was based on an assumption that Dems were on the list. It might well be true that they are, but

    1) you cannot know that they are, unless you have seen the list (which you haven't) and

    2) you cannot know that is the reason why the list was not released.

    For the record, of course anyone involved who can be charged and prosecuted, regardless of political affiliation, should be. That wasn't my point.

    Hopefully now you are clear on the meaning of my post.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,864 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Oh, absolutely. Publish the list and prosecute. Now's a good time to do that. Don't know why the CFTrump admin is backpedalling about it.

    Elsewhere I've seen 'there are Dems on the list so it shouldn't be published' in the context of, something inimical to party registration makes you more inclinded to be a pedophile than other parties. When pointed out that CFTrump was, for a long time, a registered Democrat, that theory tends to fizzle out.

    From what I understand about pedophilia, it's a power thing, there are plenty of powerful men who are caught at it, Democrats, Republicans, Torys, Labor, RCC hierarchy. It's a power thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Are you aware of which employee this was? The back bending to defend Trump in relation to Epstein is really worrying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,505 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    The founder of dark web (drug/organ selling/murderers for hire) site Silk Road has left prison after being pardoned by President Trump.

    The Law and Order President indeed.....

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Glencarraig


    Is it beyond the bounds of possibility that Maxwell could cut a deal for early release and then say "Fu*k it, I'm gonna tell the truth, I supplied under age girls for Donny Plump to have sex with and I have evidence to prove it" ?????



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,016 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Almost a guaranteed NO i would think. Any deal for release would be conditional and if she breached the agreement she'd be back behind bars I'd say



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Glencarraig


    Provided she was still alive that is!!, we all know the dark circles The Plump moves in.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,183 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Can a pardon be conditional? Either you are pardened or you are not?

    Edit: Oh yes, apparently it can. SCOTUS have said so.



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