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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 14/08/25*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    So are you saying we should have limited immigration ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,694 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    His mental state is irrelevant when one considers he had a deportation order against him, which of course, was never enforced.

    Regardless of whether he meant to do it or not, he never should have been in a position to commit such a heinous act in the first place, as he ought to have been expelled from the country upon being issued his deportation order.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    What I always find particularly interesting about these kinds of views is that there is literally nothing preventing Irish cultural preservation except Irish people themselves.

    The Muslim population in Ireland don't prevent Irish people from learning Irish or from engaging in Irish cultural activities. The Muslim population has not caused changing drinking habits which affect Irish pubs. The Muslim population don't stop Irish people from doing more to promote things like hurling outside the traditional hurling counties. When I go to Irish music festivals like The Fiddlers Green up in Rostrevor or the Ulster Fleadh in neighbouring Warrenpoint I can't quite see how the people who should come and support these things in greater numbers are somehow being stopped by "unassimilable Islamic ideology".

    All this talk about preserving cultural identity in the context of immigration discussion always just seems to be a thinly veiled scapegoating as a convenient cover for Irish people's own disinterest in, or at least lack of stewardship over, their own cultural heritage. And even that, the more obvious outside cultural influences are British and American culture — far, far beyond Islamic.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sure it'll be fine - an extra 3.6 billion people only brings us to a population density of around 52,000 people per sqkm.

    Macau are only a bit under half that and aren't they as happy as pigs in shite. These people are fleeing for their very lives, we'll just have to make do. And think of all the international brownie points. Not to mention all the lovely ipas contracts.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    True, god knows muslims never interfered with anyone preserving their culture before, wouldn't dream of it them lads.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭bloopy


    As much as it takes to ensure that everyone on the island, native and immigrant alike, is a perpetual wage slave.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭Phat Cat




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,694 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Absolutely, it’s total coincidence Yousef Palani murdered two gay men and permanently injured a third in what was perhaps the most brutal and hateful set of murders in the history of the state

    Complete coincidence



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,629 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Quags


    If it happens then why are they coming to Ireland, as I said currently we get rain 1/3 of the year and if climates get worse then they are migrating from climate change in one place to climate change in another because the min we get bad rain or sun all we hear is "Climate Change"

    I am all for those who have migrated here and worked their bollox off to make a new life for themselves, what we all want is a Gov to realise that there is majority of people from many countries taking the piss out off this country and claiming benefits with 0 intention of ever working a real job. That money tree that appeared in Covid and still has money branches for all this bollox we are currently seen will eventually run out and I can guarantee everyone that we will be made pay for it somehow.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    How many Irish schizophrenics have stabbed school kids?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,629 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    They probably come to Ireland as they are put up for a while and they probably have contacts here. The more people that move here the more contacts their fellow countrymen will have and it will become an option for more and more people coming here to claim asylum.

    Sooner or later these numbers will sky rocket due to worsening climate change and other factors and it'll probably break up the EU and cause wars and all sorts. I don't think there's any way you can secure the whole Mediterranean, look at how poorly they do on the English Channel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭prunudo


    On the face of it, this should be good, quicker turnaround times and the illegitimate cases deported immediately, but we know thats not how Ireland works.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭Repro212




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,629 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    So you think his nationality is partly due to why it happened? I would have put it solely on the Illness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    Or dragged a little girl with sight loss away from her mother and then threw her into a concession stand?

    Or walked up to a German tourist outside the airport and stabbed him multiple times in the head neck and chest for no reason?

    Or went on social media and threatened to slice up babies and children and slit the throats of charity shop staff?

    Or stripped naked and started smashing up parked cars with a beer keg?

    The list goes on and on, not that you would ever know it from the likes of RTE. Everything is just fine and dandy here according to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Quags


    Lets be honest, they don't come to Ireland cause their cousin has a sofa bed for them. They come because they will receive benefits which are better than most EU countries & for some reason there is never a push to get them into a job (once they are allowed work)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,455 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    O Gorman is mostly to blame.

    Why the hell did Dublin voters re elect him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,629 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Bit of both I'd say. Moving to London for me years ago was way easier because I could sleep on my mates couch for a few weeks until I got set up. Having a network of a certain nationality somewhere will always attract more. If I was being offered some benefits it'd make it an even easier decision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Cordell


    And even if they work, it they work in low skill low pay jobs they are still a burden on the housing, healthcare and education systems. Borders were invented for a reason, to keep others out and to protect what's ours and not to share it with them. Yes, that's exactly as selfish as it sounds, because that's how it is and how it needs to be.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Also to claim Irish citizenship which will give them easier visa rights when travelling to countries like the USA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    I don't recall in my lifetime an Irish man stabbing school kids.

    The amount of Irish people in my lifetime would be astronomically higher than the number of immigrants.

    As far as I am aware this is the only stabbing attack on school kids.

    Based on the statistics I would have to say his nationality would be very likely to have something to do with it.

    What is your reasoning that it has nothing to do with nationality?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,629 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    My reasoning is I have first hand experience with schizophrenia and I know now deluded people can become. I suppose by your reasoning you and I are more likely to be paedos when we go abroad given the amount of international paedos ireland has produced. Fair enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,156 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    I think your point is that nothing has broadly changed so nothing to see here. I disagree.

    I lived by a Muslim area in France for a while and Ive seen first hand their disdain for the French. Zero respect for those who gave them shelter. I've seen them demanding French to give over their table to them because they are just French.

    All over Europe, prison populations are over represented by Muslim immigrants.

    I find Muslims are by and large intolerant of others and its codified in the Koran E. G. If a non-Muslim causes you to stray from Islam they can rightfully be killed.

    There is no respect for western women. Covered Muslim women are halal and western women are dirty and haram, fair game for a grooming gang.

    In the military a drill sergeant screams at cadets all day to break their will and create absolute combat compliance. In Islam praying on the ground 5 times a day is creating an army of brainwashed religious soldiers some of which are violent, others just supporting intolerance of unbelievers.

    Watch some debates at speakers corner from a YouTube channel called Operation Stephen and you'll understand the Muslim psyche and the impossibility of conforming to western culture.

    If you haven't noticed any threat to Irish culture it's because they are few in number but they are out breeding us. However you must notice the public prayer sessions in UK, Canada, Minnesota. The prayer session in Croke Park, the March to the GPO. Whether intentional or not their conflation of their religion with our cultural space will confuse us as to what is specifically Irish. I have some hope for Ireland though, we are not polite like the English and have historical experience of non-Irish cultures trampling their boots on our ground (Drumcree/Garvaghy Road).

    My hats off to those protestors that stopped them marching to the GPO. South Dublin will view them as racist skanks but to me they're the imperfect bread and butter of our nation that are willing to take a stand for Ireland when the West Brits won't.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I wonder if Yousef Palani only beheaded two men (and tore the eye out of another) because he was "ill" or was there some other reason? There may be a hint in the fact that he asked his victims if they were "100% Irish" before launching his attacks. He also seriously assaulted a prison officer in jail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    So-called Christian countries have interfered much more in the Muslim world over the past 100 years than vice versa, and so-called Christian countries have had far more serious impacts on the Muslim world than the other way around — all the way to actual military invasions and regime changes.

    But it's not the point really. The fact remains that you don't seem to be willing to challenge the point being made that Muslims are absolutely not preventing Irish people from growing their interest in their native culture.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Like I said, they surely never will. Nope, lovely lads altogether. Irish culture is safe in the hands of the muslim, inshallah.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    What countries have never had peados and an Irish immigrant was the first and only?

    That would a more accurate comparison to the discussion.

    I certainly don't know you to say if you are likely to be one but I know I wouldn't be.

    What a bizarre statement for you to make.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    Paying the EU fine for not reaching the climate targets because of rapid population growth is a real plus .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,629 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    But sure plenty of Irish people have killed and hurt kids in the past here in ireland too no?

    I'm just making the point that I don't think nationality comes into it when schizophrenia makes people do mad stuff, my mate did something pretty terrible in the past during an episode.



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