Electric, Hydrogen & Hybrid Electric Buses in Ireland

BTW one point, recently TII gave a presentation about Luas and it was very interesting. They did a detail survey of how many people actually fit on different Luas vehicles at peak time. They had surveyors count the number of people actually on the vehicles and getting on and off at peak times.

This gave them very interesting real world numbers on capacity.

I'd love to see DB or NTA do something similar for buses, single deckers, standard double deckers (both a single and dual door model) and VT class (and perhaps trial a Wrights BEV tri-axle if they could and do the same) and actually publish the numbers.

Even better if we could get similar stats from the Glider BRT's in Belfast.

I'd love to see the real world peak capacity numbers of each type of bus, in particular over the length of a route (people getting on and off).

It would be interesting to see how much real world difference these different types actually make.

Yes, I wondered if the depots could fit them too, specially given how crowded they are now, thanks.

For an interesting conspiracy, 2014 was when the NTA published their Swiftway BRT plan, that would have covered the Swords corridor and partially Bray corridor that you mention DB were thinking of for the extra tri-axles. Perhaps why they killed the idea of buying more.

Of course the NTA stupidly then killed the Swiftway plan, so we ended up with the worst of both worlds!

If Wrights can get them into production, perhaps time for their return.

You are spot on! Looks like the Hon Kong ones are 24 tonne.

https://www.eeb.gov.hk/sites/default/files/en/node5762/Alexander_Dennis_ENVIRO500EV_ENG.pdf

Though with just a 472kWh battery as you say. To be honest, that battery size seem a bit too small for a city like Dublin for such a big bus. The EW are almost the same at 454kWh.

While we don't need as much as the NA models, I'd feel you would need a bit more, maybe 500kWh or so for all day operations, unless you only planned to use them at peak times.

Of course that is all the ADL model, no info on the new Wrights one.

However if it still isn't enough, I wonder if this could push the NTA into looking into articulated buses again? They are allowed to be up to 28 or 29 tonnes which gives them more room to play with. Although the routes they are cleared for as well as what depots can take them could be pretty limiting? Also I am not sure if anyone makes BEV articulated buses for RHD markets?

There is the Irizar ie tram that Aircoach is supposed to be getting for the Dublin Airport car parks. Hasn't arrived yet, but would be one of the first RHD BEV 18 BRT. Will be interesting to see how they go for Aircoach.

If we were to get BRT's, I'd figure it would be similar to the triaxles. Limited numbers, maybe 100 or so, limited to routes like the Swords road and N11. Would likely need their own dedicated depot or one of the new ones, etc.

Not saying it is going to happen, just what it might look like.

Well they ordered some Yutong E10 Electric's for local link service, I think only two so far, but perhaps a small scale trial that could lead to more later.

Wrights have a single decker electroliner.

ADL have launched a new (ADL Only) ADL Enviro200EV

And there is the new BYD BD11

Volvo BZL Single Deck would be a popular one with some around here.

I'd assume the Irizar ie tram (non bendi model) might be a bit too out there!