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Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Here is the post in question from the PROC.

    Nothing happened. It's all lies. Had heard last night from a few clubmates of the Downeys and Brian Hayes it was all bullsh!t.

    Then by pure chance my best buddy met the one Cork player he knows personally this morning. Asked him about the rumours and he confirmed its all rubbish. Nothing happened. There was no bust up in the dressing room at half time, no bust up after the game and no bust up in the Burlington. The whole lot of it is lies.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    The players could also have just lost their heads when the going got tough in the second half. Perhaps some of them should make less of those tiktok videos and focus more on their hurling skills, and working on their mental toughness and resilience on all Ireland final day.

    Post edited by Straight Talker on

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,176 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    No we are not a 15point better team but Tipp went up a level and cork down a level when game was in melting pot. This dressing room rumour is absolving the team of going missing in the second half. Cork came out late in other games this year too so that means nothing.When the going got tough the players bailed out as far as I can see. If the players had any fight they should have done it for pat ryan after the year he has had, gentleman and most likable manger in the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭King Power Fox


    If there was a dispute between a few players let it boil over there and then. The other 12-13 should have been well able to drive on and play their game. All they had to do was keep the scoreboard ticking over with a 6 point cushion head start. Healy and Barrett were playing well, Fitzgibbon was doing ok, just needed 2-3 more players to come into the game and have good second halves and see it out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    As others have said if it did kick off at halftime then those involved should never wear a Cork Jersey again!! I'm enclined to think something did indeed happen!! What a time for a bust up, 6 points up in an All Ireland. Crazy crazy stuff if true!

    As all the great managers have proven across all sports, never leave the players get too big for themselves! Ferguson got rid of Beckham and indeed Keane when the situation required!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭lukin


    When Cork U-20's won back-to-back All-Ireland's in 2020 and 2021 there were a lot of Cork people posting on here confidently predicting a senior All-Ireland within a few short years. Yet here we are heading into 2026 and still no senior AI.

    We actually also won the U-20 AI in 2023 which makes our lack of senior success even more galling. But Tipp won the U-20 AI in 2018 and 2019, beating Cork in the final on both occasions incidentally. Liam Cahill was manager. Cork threw away at least one of those finals btw.

    It took until 2025 for that U-20 success to translate to senior for Tipp (six years later). But they also had a good few senior AI winners in the team so they had a good mix of youth and experience. We don't have any AI winners to complement the AI winning U-20's we have in the team. I think this Cork team win an AI but not anymore than one or maybe two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    I dont believe the row at half time rumours, but it is a very good one. The whatsapp rumours people are getting better at it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭almostover


    Exactly, reminds me a bit of the COVID lockdown whatsapp voice notes. I've posted here that a team member rubbished the rumours and I personally know someone who was at the banquet and all was fine. But some won't take the truth on board.

    It would be a nice explanation for the 2nd half but it's not true and the truth is more difficult to process. The team had a mental collapse. Simple as.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭spakman


    But sure you're just another person online. Same as the people who are adamant that they were told that there was a row at HT.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭almostover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭spakman


    I'm not saying you're right or wrong.

    You're saying some people refuse to accept the truth. I'm just pointing out they have no reason to believe you over anyone else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Seadin


    Alot of work needed with the Cork hurling panel going forward. The people in charge of Cork GAA won't accept the fact that alot of changes are needed and alot of things must be fixed. The hurling panel must be looked at seriously now and anyone not good enough needs to be moved on and start looking at the three teams of All Ireland U20 winning teams and see can a few good players be brought in. The management needs changing too. I think Ryan might be ok but better background team seriously needed and some one like Kinnerk needed for tactics someone who can read the game and make changes straight away. That dkey Garry Keegan should be immediately sacked and they should pay all out to get Currid on board. That's the most serious change they need. Someone to change the mindset of the players and make them winners. Cork won't do anything like that but they can't expect to win All Irelands if they don't make radical changes. I think the last two All Irelands losses suggests things must change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Vinnie222


    Players like Jack Leahy not even being brought in to train with the seniors? That’s baffling. You’d imagine lads like that, with obvious ability, would at least be tested in that environment. It feels like Cork are too slow to act on emerging talent, and it costs them when it matters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I agree, there are at least 5-6 players with brilliant ability on those teams that need to be blooded ASAP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    As a neutral it seemed obvious even watching on TV that all wasn't well in the Cork camp. Not to take anything away from Tipp but their 2nd half performance is exaggerated by the fact their opposition did nothing to stop them playing. Cork were in shock not at how good Tipp were but at what had happened in the dressing room.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭Field east


    I could it not have been the case that Cork expected a surge from Tipp. At some stage. But when Tipp tagged on a goal and a few points and shortly after that Cork full back sent off and the penalty followed - Tipp’s tail was really up and at that stage Cork did not know what to do . It was in shock from then to the end. Onc could say that Tipp did not allow Cork to play its game



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,438 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Camogie semifinal v Waterford today at 5 on RTE. Galway v Tipp on beforehand



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    Cork have gone from serial winners with a great record in finals to serial losers over the last 2 decades, with the last decade particularly bad. Two absolute capitulations in finals ( Limerick & Tipp) plus the two finals against Clare were let slip through your fingers. Other counties are now sensing a soft underbelly in Cork, which will be very difficult to get rid of.

    Cork remind me very much of my own county Galway, we had loads of underage and club success, but, couldn't do it at senior level, lost final after final and other teams saw us as a soft touch, we eventually got over the line in 2017, but, what should have been a launch pad for success hasn't materialised, we are now further away than ever to winning an All Ireland, team on the decline and nothing coming through, if Cork don't soon win an All Ireland, ye could go the same way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,992 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Totally agree with this.

    I will point out though that every county has barren spot. Tipp only won 2 All Irelands between 1971 and 2001. One v Antrim. Killenny now 11 years without AI lost last 4 finals.

    Limerick waited 43 years, Galway close to 30. Even in Football Dublin had 12 and 16 year spells, Kerry had 11 and needed nice run of Clare, Cavan and Mayo to win it eventually.

    But I totally get your point. 21 years at very minimum for size of Cork is failure.(and it will be more because last Sunday will set us back while)

    I would hope that in 15 or 20 years time we may look back at this as been a need for change. My worry is that there is a arrogance within higher powers in Cork County Board. Our 5 year football plan was embarrassment, I don't see County Board doing much better for Hurlers.

    EVENFLOW



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I had a look at the panel for the 2021 All Ireland final. Out of the 26 players on the match day program. There are 23 of them players still involved with the Cork team in 2025. Thats simply unbelievable. There are people here then saying that they need huge changes next year. I can safely say there won't be 3 changes to the panel next year I could guarantee it. Cork GAA won't do the best for Cork. They will continue the status quo I'm afraid. Cork has to have a better pool of players than that over 4 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,992 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Minor Ladies beat Dublin 3-11 to 3-2 to win All Ireland.

    EVENFLOW



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 35,534 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Really poor distribution of ball coming from the defence - too many errors altogether.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 35,534 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    A very good finish to the half with 4 in a row sees us 1 behind at ht.

    Waterford with the spare defender were defending well but must have lost nearly every long puckout - Cork with the wind in the second half should push on to win as long as they spread the ball around better. Run at them a bit more to create a few overlaps.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 35,534 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    A good second half sees us win on a scoreline of 1-21 v 1-11

    We put alot of pressure on Waterford and they wilted in the last 15 in particular and our subs really put their hands up for a final place too.

    Credit to Waterford for their sheer effort but Cork really were so much better in the second half, limiting them to a mere 4 points. They managed to win a crazy amount of Waterfords puckouts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,992 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Feel sorry for Waterford ladies. Scoreline bit unfair on them, but Cork were excellent.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,677 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    definitely not !! it was only last week why i fully understood the concept of cork being dangerous when written off , because no matter how good a team is when the hype train kicks into gear it gets inside lads heads , cork did not preform as normal last week especially in the second half and pressure caused that nothing else

    fitz would drive that through the roof, my recommendations would be get on the blower to mike ashley and try and out bid jp for paul kinnerk or the next best alan cunningham in limerick , cunningham is Aarons father that used to play for clare and kinnerk regards him as the guru when asked about where he learned his hurling coaching from , he is a shannon man and we cant get our hands on him even when his son was playing for us ,

    all jokes aside its someone like that , that cork need alongside pat ryan , i dont think he should be given the road either because he has pulled cork hurling up from the gutter the last few years he need somebody with him though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,354 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    An expression I have heard which is probably unfair but your post reminded me of it : "It is harder to get off the Cork panel than onto it"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭thefa


    Had to drive a bit around Dublin earlier today and now thinking back to the optimism going up to the stadium this time last week.

    Was watching back the highlights and, despite not playing great, still had plenty of moments in the first half to suggest the team could kick on in the second half.

    Hard to not feel apathetic about it for now after how it unfolded but we’ll be back at some stage I’m sure.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭JKerova1


    The idea of Cork of all teams having a soft underbelly is impossible to imagine, when you think of some of the fellas that played for Cork over the years…but that's what people say now.



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