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Lions tour to Australia

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3


    Gas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭phog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    So jazzed about that game in its entirety. Everything that's good about the sport.

    Some redemptive storylines to make it all the more dramatic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Maybe quote someone, so posters know what the moaning is about



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    The fact that you can identify it's about yourself and your brethren that have ruined so many threads is telling in its own right.

    As is the fact I decided not to bother by editing it out. Take your loss elsewhere for once.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭phog


    what are you on about?

    What's wrong with any of my posts about the match that would have you make such a ridiculous claim.

    If your post was about one of my posts, then please quote the post that you find offensive and let's have a discussion on it or report it to a mod of you think it's trolling.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,059 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Mod: if you have an issue report it instead of posting snide remarks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Mod Edit

    Warning issued.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,200 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Ireland beating NZ in NZ over a 3 test series is a far bigger achievement than this Lions triumph....

    No amount of hyperbole from Farrell and some players will convince me otherwise...

    Australia are ranked 6th/7th in the world....

    "SUBSCRIBE TO BOARDS YOU TIGHT CÙNT".....Plato 400 B.C



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,897 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    I presume the “only 90k there tonight” is a joke, literally the biggest crowd ever to watch a Lions game



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Can only play what's in front of you.

    I agree with the general point, but it would be a bit weird for any of the players or AF to say it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,387 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    I hope they do the job fully next week and make it 3-0.

    Tadgh Furlong back in full flight has probably been my favourite thing about the tour, we've missed him!

    While I don't fully agree with the whole "James Ryan's performance for the ages" against the mighty Australia (poor turnover in the red zone and missed tackle took a little sheen off an otherwise impressive cameo) the scenes with his father after full-time were particularly lovely to see. All those scenes with families after an important win are great to see, there's a whole personal team behind the players we don't see unless they win.

    Tadgh Beirne has further cemented his place as one of our all-time great second rows... while playing 6.

    Sheehan is an absolute freak and Keenan is a gem also.

    Post edited by leakyboots on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Furlong's pass last week was the pass of the tour so far and probably won't be surpassed next week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    Hope to see Bealham, Cummings, VDF, Morgan, Pollock, White, Ringrose and Hansen start next week. Don’t think wholesale changes and being sentimental is in Farrells nature but all have been good on tour and deserve to play a test (if fit in some circumstances).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,049 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    That is a still image, you know they move at speed right? Or are you taking it literally for "at the same time" and if something is 0.1 second later it is not at the same time?

    Also, the rules of rugby has meant the player is in a vulnerable position when they are bent over like that to steal the ball. You will have to accept hits like this if you are going to deem it okay for players to be in this position. He hit him on the back of the neck, still a bad area, but what else can you do to remove that player? You cannot go for the legs, so just leave them and get rid of rucks?

    Also, also, the defending player did not come from behind and entered the tackle from the side, if we really wanted to be pedantic about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,049 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    It was a riveting test to watch. Australia were better than a lot of people thought, I guess they were a bit undercooked for the first test. That may be a reason to play their players in the warm up matches to have them sharp, instead of one test against Fiji as preparation. I do not think having those players who missed the first test available for it would have made that much of a difference, seeing as the problem was not being properly match prepared and a little undercooked for the first test.

    As for the Lions celebrating this win, you take what you can get. Seeing as the overall win ratio for Lions series is only 41% with 3 series against Argentina in that, it goes down to 36% against Australia, New Zealand and South Africa. It is only at 20% for series against South Africa and New Zealand, so winning a series, even against a currently rebuilding Australia, is still to be celebrated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    A Lions-worthy match. Oz made a match of it. Skelton and Valetini were excellent and Oz lost steam when they left. Suaali’i started so well but faded and made too many mistakes. Our superior fitness, replacements and cohesion just about told in the second half. Our scrum was solid although there were some dodgy moments from both Porter and Genge.

    Does Gordon regularly box-kick over his head? Does it give him more protection against opposing players?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭phog


    It's a still image but taken from a clip of the ruck. one player is set in the ruck contesting the ball while the other has yet to get there. The ref deemed they arrived at the same time, the still image proves otherwise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭TomsOnTheRoof


    If Tizzano arrived to the ruck at the same time as Morgan then, yes, he would not be permitted to play the ball and the Lions would be entitled to a penalty were he to do so. However, any subsequent act of foul play would supersede the original infringement resulting in a penalty to Australia.

    It's worrying then that the official tried to justify his decision by claiming that Morgan arrived at the same time as Tizzano. It's completely irrelevant given that Morgan made contact with Tizzano above the shoulders and went off his feet while doing so. Schmidt's ire is justified if you ask me.

    Anyway it's purely academic now as the series is over as a competition. It's unfortunate that the match today ended in controversy but it was always likely to do so once Piardi was appointed. At the end of the day all the series will be remembered for is the poor overall quality and a Lion's victory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,897 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    It was only the third series win in the pro era, only the second time the Lions have gone 2-0 up.

    Biggest ever crowd at a Lions match, in a city which doesn’t even have a pro team.

    Biggest ever comeback.

    Eleven Irish guys featured.

    It was a very entertaining game even for a neutral.

    Led by the Irish coach (even if some Irish people wish he wasn’t).

    The decision at the end was borderline, could easily have gone either way. Every ruck that’s ever happened is the same. Piardi is a very good ref and he had a good game.

    Cannot understand why people cannot enjoy this, appreciate it for what it is and just stop f**king moaning for a while.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,758 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Agreed. We all recognise the sad posts for what they are. Bitterness.

    Gorgeous isn't it. The sweetness of it. Love it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭phog


    As you say the decision at the end was borderline, borderline decisions usually are talking points. This is a rugby forum for fans to discuss what is of interest to them, Just because someone differs to you doesn't necessarily mean they're moaning or can't enjoy the win.

    There seems to a tiny group of posters here who seem to want some sort of group think in all things rugby. How boring would that be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭TomsOnTheRoof


    Jesus Christ. Do you ever give it a rest!? The match ended in controversy. It's a massive talking point and will continue to be so over the next few days. Schmidt, who is very fondly remembered in this country, was fuming. It stands to reason then that the incident will be discussed, in detail, on a discussion forum.

    Additionally, given the history of the Lions it stands to reason that many Irish supporters will be somewhat ambivalent towards the whole thing. That's before you even consider the damage Gatland's tenure did to it, which culminated in the absolute **** show which was the last tour. We can be happy for the Irish contingent and we can keep an eye on the games without being too invested. We can also be critical. None of that constitutes moaning, disappointment that Australia lost or is evidence of some deep seated hatred of Andy Farrell.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I really don't think the last "incident" was particularly borderline, all the moreso when you see what Super Rugby and SANZAR in general allow and their general approach to head contact.

    Aus are salty cause it was a game defining moment, but that is not getting called by any ref in the SH competitions and only by a few up north.

    Also Piardi is just a poor ref who makes stuff up all the time. He got the decision right and saying the players arrived at the same time is far from the silliest thing he has said this season. I assume he just meant roughly at the same time.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Additionally, given the history of the Lions it stands to reason that many Irish supporters will be somewhat ambivalent towards the whole thing

    I don't understand this point at all?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭phog


    That's a fair observation about what happens in the SH but I'd be confident if that try was scored in the early part of the match the try would have been overturned and a pen to Australia.

    Id agree with you about the ref, he's poor and makes stuff up to suit his decisions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭TomsOnTheRoof


    Rightly or wrongly there are plenty that hold the view that the Lions is an antiquated holdover from the day's of the Empire. Personally I can understand that although it has never particularly bothered me. I would say I was a big fan of the tours up until Gatland was reappointed for the 2017 series. After that my interest rapidly dwindled and I doubt I'm alone in that. A tour of Australia was never likely to rekindle any great passion for the thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,758 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Agreed. We don't want a group think. But we also need to know where some supporters bias is. It's fairly easy to detect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Fwiw, my bias is with The Lions. I'm a huge fan of The Lions going back to before rugby turned professional.

    The thing I detect here is that anyone who has a different opinion to group think is to be targeted with ridiculous and outlandish claims of trolling, hatred, moaning, taking stuff out of context etc etc etc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,897 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    The popularity of rugby in Ireland is itself a holdover of the British Empire. That’s a bizarre reason to dislike the Lions.



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