Hamas strike on Israel

The British, as much as we criticised them in the Troubles, would not have dreamed resorting to this excessive use of force by Israel. In the 17th century yes with Cromwell.

Exterminating an entire people is genocide, and is not permitted in warfare. The Geneva Conventions confine fighting to combattants only.

I fear that this genocide will have the affect of turning Muslims internationally more against the West, but I don't really blame them. The US and UK in particular have brought destruction to the Middle East, as has Israel. But in the case of Iraq, these countries then belatedly recognised they had to rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan. This shows the importance of hearts-and-minds in warfare in terms of longterm security.

Unfortunately, the Israeli Rightwing doesn't care about hearts and minds. They would need a heart for that. The words of Netanyahu (e.g. invoking "Amalek"), Smotrich, Ben Gvir and others are evidence of intent in my opinion. The Genocide Convention requires intent to convict.This also has echoes of when Cromwell invoked the Bible to justify atrocities in Ireland.

However, the United States shares a huge amount of the blame for this because it would not be possible without a steady flow of US arms and money.

So do you condemn them?

I haven't seen one person supporting Hamas on here. How could anyone?

I can't believe any decent human being (which exempts Israeli trolls pretending to be Irish posters on here) would not condemn the horrendous war crimes and unjust suffering being placed on fellow humans by the IDF SS. The vast majority of such humans being innocent children who's only crime was to be born in a segregated state.

It is a sick society. Thank Jeebus I live in a predominantly decent country like Ireland who are on the side of humanity.

People read into things what they want to. You can understand an action but also condemn it. These subtleties escape some people. Oppressed people will always fight for freedom. The oppressor is never on the right side of history. Every country has the right to self defence but that can never cross over into oppression. Once it does it stops being self defence. You support an action up to the point that you condemn it. If you don't condemn you condone.

The maniacal and genocidal rhetoric from the Israeli cabinet so sadly mirrors the Nazis. It's time to give Palestine back to the Palestinians. They should never have lost it. Let the Palestinians decide whether the Jews can stay there or should return to Europe. Arab Jews would certainly have a stronger claim to remain alongside their Palestinians brethern so long as their hearts haven't been poisoned by Zionism.

Your reading comprehension isn't the best if that's your take. I've probably been called anti Semitic here more then anyone else.

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I've already discussed this. If the IRA was democratically elected in Ireland and then commited an Oct 7th style genocide on the Brits or Unionists in the north the British reaction would have been vicious and likely would have commited genocide in return.

We seen how certain rogue British soldiers acted a lot like some IDF soldiers do. I think that would have been dramatically amplified if we'd commited genocide against them.

Palestine is not recognised as a member of the United Nations.

The sea change in coverage and condemnation of Israel's actions in the past 48 hours is astonashing. For the likes of the Daily Mail and The Times to lead with harrowing pictures and "Famine" headlines can only really mean that the situation in Gaza is far far far worse than we know. My real fear now is Israel knows the end game is near and will go full beserker mode (not that they haven't been anyway). In other news Hamas wasn't stealing all the aid but we all knew that, just the pro zionist pigs making up lies as usual https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/no-evidence-massive-hamas-theft-gaza-aid-rcna221208

More footage of family gatherings, nothing better than watching the kids have a good stomp about at the border crossing. Beyond hope !

https://news.sky.com/story/flatplan-13401434

This surgeon clearly hasn't a clue. He should talk to pro Israelis war crimes apologist, sitting in Ireland, who says there is no one starving in Gaza because Israeli radar and the IDF told them so.

Dr Maynard did not see the shooting and so he could not know whether the shooters in those cases were IDF soldiers or US contractors or Palestinian terrorists. Therefore, he is speculating.

There are laws to deal with it, treason.

Nearly every ally of Israel have come out against what they are doing in Gaza now apart from Trump's America. So the only posters still supporting their actions now are the equivalent of Trump supporting Americans. I dont think any fact or crime would make them change their minds.

Dr Maynard didn't claim that he saw the shootings. Therefore, there is room for reasonable doubt about the crimes that he alleges.