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Niall Gilligan cleared of assault

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    As I've already said. I know the family and also know Gilligan. The things being posted here just don't make sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Homer


    it’s the “not my Johnny” defense 😄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    The funny thing is, I'd wager that 99.9% of people in here haven't even got a clue what the Jamaica inn is/was at the time. The articles online make it out like those kids broke into gilligans house, it was a run down, closed down old hostel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    Oh well that's OK then if that's the case. Let it go man - the little scrote got what was due to him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Kids going exploring a closed down building deserve to be beaten? Right.

    Did you have no sense of adventure as a child? I pity you.

    I hear there were kids robbing pallets for a bonfire around the same time this happened, I'd say they should be hung, drawn and quartered.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    Scrotes are causing an awful lot of trouble in the Bridge for several years now, Guards not dealing with it, no resources.

    It is a ridiculous situation that a kid breaks into a property more than once, vandalises it, and when the owner hits him, he’s the one who ends up in court. It’s fcking stupid.

    The jury did the right thing. It’d be insane if Gilligan had ended up getting a conviction. The reality is Gilligan wouldn’t have opened his mouth to the young lad if he hadn’t violated his property.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    It’s Gilligans property, he was dealing with the issues caused by scum vandalising it, no one should trivialise the issue of fckers damaging the property of people who are entitled to be left alone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    I've already said this. They weren't the people who vandalised the place.

    Imagine going back in time to when you were 12 and you came across a run down, dilapited building with your friends, did you never go inside for a look around? Plenty of places for you to have done it around the bridge, Newmarket or Shannon.

    If Davey Fitz had done the same to people who did similar to the bells, would he have got the same credit as Gilligan?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    What are you talking about? You sound like you're related to the little snot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Nope, not related to the boy at all. You never answered the question.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    They admitted letting off the fire extinguishers. Doing that on someone else’s property is certainly vandalism. They also stole the keys. 

    And Gilligan was the one who ended up in court. Fcking stupid.

    If I had behaved like that as a kid I’d have deserved a hiding. If one of my own did it, it’d be the same.

    If Davy did what Gilligan did it’d rebuild his standing in Clare.

    You can dislike Gilligan, but criticising him for using violence against people violating his property is stupid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    Gilligan was cleared of assault by the jury. That's it. Your hypothetical questions and butt hurt is irrelevant. Deal with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    Serious point, the parents of the two boys could yet be compelled to pay compensation for damage done to the property. Gilligan may want to draw a line under the matter now, but he could seek damages and it’s hard to see any counter argument after they acknowledged use of the fire extinguishers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,116 ✭✭✭jackboy


    They won't. It's a derelict building and there is only evidence they caused very minor damage. If someone buys that building it will need to be gutted anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭Crakepottle?


    Many youngsters have the sort of adventures that might be considered borderline vandalism or even criminal damage. In most cases they mature into responsible adults. The adults in their lives play a significant role here. Maybe the fatherly response should have gone thus. "Thank goodness you were not more seriously hurt Jack. You had no right to be in that building. There might have been damaged electrical wiring, dangerous chemicals, unsafe building materials etc. . And we hadn't a clue you where! You could be lying dead in there. Mr Gilligan owns that place and needs to safeguard it. You need to keep out of his way for a while and have a good think about what has happened. You put him in an unfair position. I believe that you need to apologize. I will speak to him first if you would like me to."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,823 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Incredible how many men here are openly justifying touching kids in a violent manner. At least Gilligan had the sense to pretend it was self-defence.

    I've caught kids on my property pulling up plants before. I told them they were on camera, and they stopped. The last thing I'd ever do is lay a hand on a child over something like that. If you're someone who fantasises about beating up pre-teens for the kind of mischief most of us got up to when we were young, you seriously need to take a good, hard look at yourself and your moral compass. Gilligan got off because of his parish connections, his fame and a system that that still bends too easily for the well connected and well regarded.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    I'm going to go out on a limb here and assert that you have no proof at all that Gilligan was treated favourably.

    In a sense he couldn't possibly win in some people's eyes, it's such a handy cop out to say he 'got off' because of corruption that you can't prove but say must exist solely because he played for Clare and was found not guilty. Idiotic, predictable, tiresome and libellous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,823 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    You can boot lick your parish hero all you want, I don't have a problem with that but condoning violence against kids is a problem. You need to reign that in. While Gilligan may get away with it, you certainly won't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    I don't know Gilligan, I'm not from Sixmilebridge, I won't and haven't, boot-licked anyone. You made the allegation of corruption, but have not provided any details of what that involved. It's a serious slur on the court and everyone involved in the case, almost certainly libellous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,823 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Plenty of people have already said it on this thread! GAA stars often get a soft landing in the courts, and that's no secret, it's discussed frequently on boards.ie so you can save the sea lawyer stuff for the barstool. Back to your cheerleading for him assaulting a child…. I can guarantee he regrets it completely and would take it back if he could. You’d do well to take his advice and ease off the violent fantasies.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    Anyone who made such a serious allegation about a specific case surely has proof, or something they think is proof. On a wider point if there is proof that GAA stars are protected by the courts I'd love to see it.

    You must know Mr Gilligan quite well if you're saying he regrets his actions. In court his team said the injuries were regrettable, not that he felt he had behaved inappropriately. Not knowing him at all I've no idea of his thinking, but you must be very close to him to be able to speak on his behalf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,823 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Google it. There are loads of examples where GAA stars got a soft ride in the courts, drink driving, brawls, the lot. Don’t act like this is some unprecedented legal scandal just to get the thread pulled because you don't like the direction it's going in.

    And of course he regrets it. Who wouldn’t? Nobody wants to be known as someone who hits a child, dragged through court, risk being fined or potentially jailed, and stuck with a massive legal bill. Only a fool would imagine Gilligan is glad of what he did, he clearly wants a quite life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,688 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Homer


    you really should take a long hard look at yourself and maybe change your username to something a little more flowery there Rambo 😄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    Many people feel that Hayes was treated with some leniency, however that is a frequent criticism of Irish courts, it hardly amounts to definitive proof that the court erred or gave him preferential treatment due to him being a GAA player.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    I'm guessing your research is based on Googling alright, but in reality it would be very hard to make a quantitative case for corruption of the Irish courts in favour of GAA players based on Google searches. In fact it would be quite impossible.

    You still haven't produced a scintilla of evidence that Mr Gilligan was found not guilty for any reason other than that was the correct decision.

    Again, I have no idea of Mr Gilligan's thinking, he may well regret what he did, he may feel it was the only course of action available at the time, I certainly have no idea, you'd need to know him very well to know how he feels about it now.

    De Valera used to say he just had to look into his own heart to know what the Irish people felt about a particular issue. It seems you just have to look into your own mind to know what Mr Gilligan thinks?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,823 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    There’s nothing wrong with using Google to search news articles. But quoting someone like De Valera, a man who held Ireland back for decades about “the Irish looking into their hearts” while trying to justify beating a child is laughable. Romanticising that nonsense while defending violence is beyond absurd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,823 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    The movie character Rambo kept his violence for adults! And they were all bad guys!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    We'll leave it at that, I've made arguments and references that are far too complex for you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,823 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    We? You can leave it at that, your uncomplicated and simple arguments in favour of beating up kids has fallen flat on it's face as have your barstool courtroom accusations. If you truly think Gilligan doesn't regret what happened you're posts are deluded. One doesn't have to know him to know this, it's common sense.



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