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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭jmreire


    And further to my experiences while living in Russia, especially with the police..

    Yesterday, a guy wrote that he left Russia by car four years ago, but fresh traffic fines keep coming for his car. Russia has already moved to a quantum level, where you can get busted in different places at the same time. So everything’s fine, folks, no need to worry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    "You realize there were mean words about the Nazis too back in the day, right?"

    Indeed. It was disgusting the way the mean British used to demean Germans by using perjorative words like 'boche','krauts' and 'squareheads'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭Polar101


    It hasn't gone down very well in Ukraine, seems to be a complete mess now. Obviously the vatniks will want to highlight it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Wait till he learns what Americans did to citizens of Japanese origin in WW2

    Or what Stalin was doing to Poles and Jews

    Is Woke Concernik an acceptable label?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,147 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    I see the Putin apologists, useful idiots and Russian bots are all over it online. It's telling how in sync they all are.

    As for the bill, I can understand why the Ukr parliament voted for it considering how corruption investigations could be abused by Russian aligned interests during war-time. That said, the optics of it look bad and they should have anticipated that part.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,831 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    a Ukrainian fibre-optic drone with a range of 50km.

    b0cbd418-17ba-4a35-b045-bb8dc39a7e33.png

    Jam that up the ORC asses…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Well here we go, friends of Russia can go back to posting maps of fields now

    Maybe they can also contemplate how is it that people can peacefully influence politics unlike in their dictatorship



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    This kind of thing is a problem for Ukraine the longer the war goes on.

    Don't know if law is/would be justified, and perhaps it is not if a big stink is being raised over it.

    Democracy has to be run more like an autocracy in certain ways in a crisis, and pro Russia posters here just love to highlight that + gloat. They never, ever refer to the dire political state of Russia (might get some of them in trouble!), which chose to start the war, and is still suffering far less from it at home than Ukraine.

    The obvious solution here would be for the Russian military to go home and also stop bombing Ukrainian cities every day so politics and society can get somewhat back to normal and "emergency" war-time laws would not be needed, but that never seems to be proposed by the concerned posters!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭rogber


    This is a very feeble line of logic and I would expect better from you. Reminds me of when Putin once said "Russia will do democracy in its own way, you can't just change overnight" (or words to that effect).

    Large protests against the Zelensky government amidst a war are a serious sign of dissatisfaction among the population that this is happening.

    Hopefully the government listens and will respond appropriately



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,147 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    It was 1,500 protesters, I wouldn't describe the protests as large.

    3 of Nabu's employees are suspected of having links to Russia, it's chief didn't turn up for military duty and has given speeches denouncing Zelensky, the two agencies are also suspected of leaking information to Russia.

    I don't know where the truth is exactly but it's utterly bonkers to have agencies acting in this fashion against a war-time government.

    It's important to pursue corruption, but not at the cost of leadership during a war for the survival of a country - especially if there are suspicions the agencies involved may be compromised.

    Again, I agree the optics look bad, and they have to work on that, but I do understand why the vast majority of the Ukrainian parliament voted for the bill considering the circumstances



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,833 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,620 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    BBC Steve R continues to chronicle the deteriorating Russian economy based on their own newspapers

    ”economy on verge of recession”

    “Petrol on rise”

    ”beetroot prices up 58%”

    And



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭zv2


    Well yes, as far as Ukraine is concerned but I was thinking in more general terms. Some countries are so steeped in corruption they can't change suddenly without damage to their economies. Suppose your supplier is corrupt and goes to jail. How do you get your supplies? Or are they going to be more expensive from a straight supplier? etc, etc, etc,…

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Glass half empty view again, you see what happened in Ukraine as weakness i see it as a strength

    That there is the possibility and occurrence of protests (and speed of organization!) and free and open media to document these shows that Ukraine is an anti Russia in every respect

    Meanwhile situation in Russia must be like a pressure cooker where the population has no avenues to vent steam (while the economy deteriorates day after day, and men die by their hundreds of thousands) or even influence their dictatorship in any way shape or manner

    During WW2 there were massive and regular protests in UK culminating in Churchill being voted out as soon as war ended, that’s what democracies do

    “In 1943 there were two major stoppages, one was a strike of 12,000 bus drivers and conductors and the other of dockers in Liverpool and Birkenhead. Both were a considerable embarrassment to Bevin since they involved mainly TGWU members. 1944 marked the peak of wartime strike action with over two thousand stoppages involving the loss of 3,714,000 days' production. This led to the imposition of Defence Regulation 1AA, supported by the TUC, which now made incitement to strike unlawful.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    I don't think anyone, other than our concerned friends, is suggesting the protests are anything but a sign of strength. It is however important to maintain checks and balances, even in wartime (while accepting that the scales must shift slightly in pursuit of the general good), and people are correct to scrutinise the new legislation being passed. It may well be, as some have suggested, that it is being passed from a place of virtue with the aim of countering undoubted Russian attempts to interfere in Ukraine's internal affairs. But as there is always the possibility - not just in Ukraine, but also in the US, Hungary, Poland as we've seen in recent years - that there is a more malevolent force at play, people shouldn't blindly dismiss it as "Bad for Russia = Perfectly Fine".

    I'd have faith in Zelensky's management of the country that this is simply a measure to get Ukraine through the war and out of Putin's clutches, but it is good that he's reminded of his citizens' desire for a modern, democratic, free and fair society aligned with the better of EU values.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭Nermal


    At the time the British were engaged in total war with the Germans.

    Who are we at war with?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,147 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Russia is at hybrid war with Europe. They hit our health services with a cyber-attack. They've been observed on or near undersea cables off our West coast. On their evening TV they have had graphics of setting off an underwater nuke that would wipe us out, they regularly talk about invading and nuking other European countries. Their helicopters have "onwards to Berlin" written on them. They are invading a European country and slaughtering it's inhabitants - last I checked we are a part of Europe.

    We're not directly at war with Putin, but he's very much at war with Europe, hot and cold.

    Likewise during WW2 we were neutral. Were you concerned when we referred to Nazi's by slurs back then? Or is this what I suspect it is.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,279 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    In the last twenty years, Russia has engaged engaged in large scale political interference in EU countries. They have engaged in chemical and radioactive attacks in the UK. The chemical attack ended up with member of the public dying. On top of that, you've got the passenger airplane that they shot down. On top of that, cyber attacks have been heavily associated with the Russian state.

    So while Europe may not officially be at war outside of Ukraine, we very much so have reasons to view Russia as a threat even within our own borders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    His wife is denying it.

    If you can believe she is truthful of course.

    @HuffmanTime 5 hours ago (edited)

    He's still in the military with his unit I know yall hard to believe



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    I wouldn’t be surprised if the drone video comes out demolishing the narrative she is making under obvious duress, there’s no way to verify its even her (she probably already selling herself on OnlyOrcs)

    They went to Russia to “escape the gays” from US, documented whole process and her husband then “voluntarily” joined the meatgrinder where life expectancy for Russians is measured in hours



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    BBC reporting plane crash in Russian far east, 48 dead



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    The An-24 that crashed in the Amur region was 49 years old — the aircraft was manufactured at the Kiev Aviation Plant in 1976.

    According to SHOT, the plane flew for various Russian airlines, including "Izhavia" and "Nizhny Novgorod Airlines," as well as for a carrier from Cambodia. The aircraft joined the "Angara" fleet in 2021.

    The crash of the An-24 in the Amur region has been reported to Vladimir Putin, Peskov said.

    Further comment from a Russian:

    "The flight was delayed due to weather; usually, they wait until the weather conditions are suitable for flying not only from the departure point but also at the destination. When the weather allowed, we took off, but during the flight, the weather changed at the destination. The decision to land or divert to an alternate airport is made by the crew commander. It's currently vacation season, and passenger traffic is high; if the plane had returned or landed at another airport, the airline would have incurred costs... and the pilots practically live in these planes. In airlines, not only the aircraft but also the people are worn out."

    Struggling for pilots are we Russia?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I’m kind of surprised that it’s happened this quickly, but I guess when a MAGA nitwit doesn’t speak enough Russian, it might be hard from him to understand a «Hit the dirt!» warning from his Russian unit. So yea…for all we know it was his first day there…

    He deserves his Darwin Award…i just hope his kids get out of Russia soon or their future isn’t going to be all that bright…

    All for the sake of avoiding «LGBT» stuff…some people really are oxygen thieves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,125 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    You might be happy for the Orcs to get their corrosive, murderous and destructive way in the world at the cost of the values the west tries to live by, but I am not. This is an existential crisis, Europe is at war with the Orcs - the Mongol DNA is strong in them and they are pushing East again.

    The Celtic interconnector, already way over budget, has just been announced delayed by at least another year, with hints it will be more. Hmmm, why might that be, the article talks of issues with burying the cable?

    My hope is that it relates to that Orc shadow fleet vessel that was recently spotted dropping anchor in the Irish sea where there is a concentration of submarine comms cables, possibly about to drag it's anchor and sever the lot of them, just as the Chinese have done near Taiwan and the Orcs in the Baltic. Luckily it was spotted and asked what it was doing and kept under observation and it suddenly upped anchor and pissed off.

    So hopefully this issue with the Celtic interconnector is a sign of someone deciding to bury the cable in places it was going to left exposed on the sea floor. Expect the cost to the Irish taxpayer to blow out considerably, if that is the case.

    I'm at war with the Orcs, I'll continue to name them as I see fit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    The kids are screwed, tho maybe some US religious charity might pull them out (Trump regime sure as hell won’t help) the wife is probably already dead too

    But he deserves what he got, he went from

    “I want to move somewhere with family values and no gays”

    To

    “I am totally ok with killing people who done nothing wrong to me or my family and getting paid roubles for it”

    It’s not just stupidity and delusion it’s actual evil



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    I don't mean to come across as heartless, but that's fucking hilarious.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain




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