Donald Trump the Megathread part II

The other side of that is they could have been setting honey traps themselves.

It would be ironic if the Big Beautiful Bill bite from the family income was to be the thing which eventually took Trump down after the disquiet of all his other anti-social activities started the wave against him.

I'm not sure that MAGA will ever go away now as its not only a catchy title but an idea which others can use for their own purposes, same as the quote "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides." to excuse the worst of MAGA's excesses and smear anyone who had the courage to stand against Trump's personal MAGA.

If people are still professing a desire to “make America great again” in a few years from now, it means MAGA has failed- plain and simple - they can’t keep using this saying- it will become a millstone around their neck

Ah I know that but really, I’m surprised even at this stage, that it hasn’t become a laughing stock saying - we’ve had it what nearly 10 years now - just how many years more is it going to take? 😀

Saying that, whilst publicly democrats might criticise the immigration polices now in place, privately these are likely to become the norm, if they get back in albeit with some adjustments - what party wants to reintroduce 1000s of people marching on the border seeking asylum -

Well for the MAGA's it was surely 1950's?

Women knew and stayed in there place, you could hunt down African Americans for fun.

Sure it was woke since you couldn't own slaves anymore but 1950's would be a start.

another Abu Ghraib in the making

To use one of Trump's favourites, "they" will put part of the blame on him because of his TACO behaviour but will still admire him, idiosyncratic but fondly recalled. They'll ignore the millstone by recalling "the good old days" he convinced them he'd bring back.

There's another 4-letter political abbreviation sometimes used to describe people within/behind MAGA, which I would have thought people of a certain persuasion would have kicked up a storm about being linked to them but doesn't seem to have caused them to bat an eyelid while they promote the great plan of 2025.

some guard is bound to make a video to show to his friends, which will then leak

There is an argument that they were well aware of his proclivities but he was an asset to them so chose to keep it under wraps. There are known cases of assets abusing kids as young as 2 yet they weren't prosecuted to protect the work these assets were involved in. This is America, the shining city on the hill is a myth. Nothing and nobody matters more than the shadows their intelligence services operate in.

Unless information she gives can be independently verified, I wouldn't trust a word - with so many amoral scumbags on both sides, could easily see the corrupt Trump administration saying we will pardon you if you say X.

That fact hasn’t and won’t change in the near future- but HOW you do it is likely to change.
Seasonal working visas for example- you come from Mexico for 3 month whatever season- you leave after 3 months - you come back later in the year for season 2- you leave again. In other words, provide jobs but not citizenship - and you apply for these jobs from your home country not in America

I think America has to balance a free for all on immigration and no immigrants - we’re in “no immigrants” land right now so something will have to change- but I don’t think anyone wants to see a return to how it was - even the Democrats - they know they’ll have to be stronger on immigration to win back seats

I think part of the problem for the US is the size of it. It's hard for a president or congress to have an impact in many part of the country. The bills the write have to be big in scope and can't address many local issues.

Plus it's driven by vested issues. There's a lot of money needed to be elected and a lot of money to be made. So their representatives tend to be indebted to interest groups or at the least afraid of them.

And even then, there's a lot of power devolved to states and local government.

Plus culture war issues are dominating the ballot. So people are voting along those lines instead of in their economic interests.

More examples of how the fascist ICE Neanderthals - both male and female I might add- are treating detainees -cancer is too good for them .

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/21/migrants-miami-ice-jail-abuses