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All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship 2025 (Munster And Leinster Championships,Liam McCarthy Cup)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,150 ✭✭✭threeball


    That wasn't a tactical implosion by Cork, it was a mental one. So all thr tactical analysis in the world is useless.

    Cork had a poor first half too. Nothing close to playing to the standard or system you'd expect from them. Its just that Tipp were equally bad. I said it here after 10mins that it was really low quality fare. Poor shot selection and poor option taking from both teams.

    Tipp came out a bit harder in the 2nd knowing their backs were to the wall after the goal and Cork capitulated once they had closed the gap from 6 to 3. Some of the scores Tipp got in the last 15mins they were experiencing no pressure whatsoever, they were happy to chance shots from everywhere and with confidence up they were going over.

    This was not a vintage display by Tipp by any stretch. This was a team completely imploding and the other taking advantage. A good minor team would have put up a few points against Cork in that 2nd half so bad was the mental collapse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭Eoinbmw


    On the hurley i genuinly taught it was a novelty hurley never realised it was a players ! What the feck!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭C__MC


    It wasn't a vintage final. Couldn't believe how flat Cork were. I taught they'd be to good for tipp. Tipp simply just outworked them and got the breaks. Wrestling momentum back wasn't in corks armour today. Congrats tipp.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    Tactics are all good and well but if you are losing 50-50s all over the park you are in big trouble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Tipp probably would have won anyway. Way stronger in the second half



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    Tipp lost 1 championship game all year down in Cork with 14men for 70minutes. Still.have lads who obviously have never played hurling or have extreme bias on about how tipp are not that good etc, same was said in 2019. This tipp team have been building nicely and have as good hurlers as any and better then most throughout the team. Cork collapsed but tipp made them.collapse. John mc has a hurling brain that can't be trained in the gym, may not be the fastest feet but probably has fastest brain on the hurling pitch most days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire


    I never thought I'd see the day where at present Cork and Kilkenny both have lost nerve, confidence and know how in winning the most important games.

    Of the big 3, since 2015, only Tipp look like they know how to win and are composed in an All Ireland final.

    'Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio? A nation turns It's lonely eyes to you.'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭Eoinbmw


    Tipp were a complete side today solid from 1 to 15!

    Love there control even after all the wides first half just kept plugging away consistently outworked cork honest workman like hurling! Greatb team effort!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,500 ✭✭✭almostover


    Good post. We (Cork) weren't great in the 1st half but I thought we'd figured it out in the lead up to half time. Tipp defended well until the goal on the stroke of HT but were brutal with their shooting in the 1st half. I honestly thought the first half was very poor by both teams but we had a bit of a spurt coming up to HT.

    Tipp went up a gear in the 2nd half and we just laid down and let them. Tipp played better in the semi v KK in that 2nd half than today but we just folded. Mistake after mistake and no drive to win the ball on the ground. Every time the ball broke down a Tipp player would come away with it. That sort of shying away from the battle has always been the achilles heel of this Cork team.

    Tipp didn't have to bring their best to win, that's the most galling part. Jason Forde and Jake Morris had quiet enough games, 2pts each. John McGrath showed a bit of cuteness and we coughed up 2-2 and a penalty to him. Not to mention a close call with a square ball. None of the Tipp lads shot the light out bar McCarthy from placed balls. They didn't need to. It was a good performance by them, and that's all that was needed given how bad we were. It must be one of the softest all irelands ever. Two decent teams in the final, neither world beaters, and one team mentally stays in the dressing rooms for the 2nd half.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭eggy81


    But cork literally missed about 5 absolute sitters of points before the rot fully set in. Tipp had gotten on top but cork had several routine chances to keep the score board ticking over but missed them. Scoring 3 or 4 of those would have kept their heads up while halting the tipp momentum. The fact that they missed them and the ball suddenly became magnetised to tipp players through the confidence gained by a huge scoring run contributed massively to the collapse. But how do you analyse crap shooting from 50 yards?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    It's amazing really how in sports certain teams over generations just haven't the mental strength to get over the line. I know that painfully as a Waterford man, Mayo, England football team, Cork are now in that position. When the pressure is on they collapse



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Imeall an cearnóg


    Jesus the penalty decision and sending off was shocking bad



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    he was on a yellow and a warning , so no argument here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Imeall an cearnóg


    Yeah but it wasnt a penalty so the sending off shouldn't have happened



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭OnTheCorner


    He didn’t even knock DJ Carey, one of the lightest players on the pitch over and then John Hoyne stopped him in his tracks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Imeall an cearnóg


    What other all-irelands have been won by a team playing a sweeper?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭siyo


    Martin Comer ford roasted him that day, 1-4 from play.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭Gael85


    I think that moment with Horgan on Shelley spurned Tipp on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Being a Rossie, I wouldn't know one end of a hurl from the other, and won't try to analyse the game as there are plenty here would know more then me.

    However, I have had a fancy for Tipp since early in the year. There was a good energy about them during the league, and they were likely to take one of the favorites out (Cork or Limerick) and if someone else would take the other one out....

    Middling Tipp teams are always capable of winning Liam, if they get a head of steam up at all they are dangerous. There is a steel and a cockiness about them.....

    They have now won 4 all irelands since cork last won one. It'll be another famous one in a row, but they won't care.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭slegs


    Horgan is the most overrated hurler ever. He has had along career and is a good freetaker but most big games he is anonymous bar a moment or two that makes the likes of Marty Morrissey get all excited. Cork should have dropped him 2-3 years ago. No one “deserves” an All Ireland for longevity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Cahill putting cantwell back in her box!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 923 ✭✭✭pajoguy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire


    Too many were calling the game after the Cork goal.

    6 points is a small lead in modern hurling. It can be wiped out in 2 or 3 minutes.

    Hoggie missed a free to get Cork 7 points ahead and up and running first play of the second half. Not 1 player, bar maybe Harnedy, really stood up.

    Lack of leadership and ability to adapt.

    'Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio? A nation turns It's lonely eyes to you.'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,061 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Power seems to have gone to her head in last few years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire


    I had doubts about Cahill. But he won the tactical battle, completely, today.

    'Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio? A nation turns It's lonely eyes to you.'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,396 ✭✭✭TheRiverman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭siyo


    That clip of 5 or 6 of the cork management team all huddled together as the game was gone away from them is kind of funny. They look completely bewildered.



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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Two points in the second half wouldn't fly at underage level nevermind a senior AI final. One of the strangest capitulations I've ever seen, honestly.



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