Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

This theory has been floating round for years. And knowing how Israel operate it should be of no surprise to anyone. This is a country who installed spyware on their largest allies defence forces computers. That killed that same countries soldiers in a false flag attack, to try to drag them in to a war, who stole the documents that allowed them to create nuclear weapons and who created a false narrative to try to get that same country to go to war on its behalf.

Its hardly surprising it was working to obtain kompromat on the most powerful and influential people in this same country.

Epstein files

Nahhhh this is way more important

I think he just likes being in the news. His narcicism compels him to be talked about constantly hence the ridiculous daily statements that never come to anything.

Trump's base don't mind Israel blowing the hell out of the Palestinians, as a rule. Some MAGA pundits were trying to get clicks by pushing back on the idea of a war with Iran, which never came to be, or even really looked likely to. Trump doesn't need to be a Mossad asset because he already does Israel's bidding, and the base has been largely fine with that (I don't recall a lot of blowback from them when he suggested that Gaza be entirely cleared out).

Like the way their former hero Musk is a bad guy now. Even in the MAGA world attempting to claim that Murdoch is a radical leftist is not going to fly.

In which Walter Mitty Trump strikes again..

He complains about the dangers of AI, launched multiple applications in order to establish presidential immunity (literally arguing he was above the law), was convicted himself and yet posts a fake video of President Obama getting arrested in the White House without any charges existing

Here's the problem with the US, there's no "truth" anymore. No-one trusts the news anymore. If definitive proof was released tomorrow of Trump being a paedophile, it wouldn't matter because half the country at least would have serious doubts about the authenticity of the information and as was mentioned, a large chunk wouldn't care.

Look at the crap that we know about trump. There's a ridiculous amount that can be actually proven. But it doesn't matter. He still got millions and millions of votes. Anyone who thinks the next thing will cause Trump to suddenly lose support is going to be proven wrong.

It either didn't matter or people thought it was just political spin because they're so used to hearing lies.

I do think maga/trump will lose support over time but it will be a slow erosion. It will be caused by the effects maga policies have on ordinary people. Everyone was for cutting government waste until their essential service was cut. Everyone is for deporting criminals until the criminal turns out to be the grandma down the road who got a parking ticket.

There's a certain group that are deplorable. And there's a group of people who voted for their own self interest, or what they thought was in their interest. Lower taxes, less government spending etc… But there's a large segment who voted because America sucks. It's a really bad place to live if you're not wealthy. And a long line of democratic and republican presidents have done very little to make it better. And these people aren't political. They don't read the news. They might catch a min or two on TV. Mainly they're bombarded with political ads on TV and Facebook.

I think apathy has set in for many - there’s a hopelessness that exists across the country- and it’s probably why Trump/MAGA did so well - many people thought they had little to lose considering how little they had -until of course, Trump too even that away from them

He had his daily “massages” and he had his island where many of the great and good as well as bad were seen to travel to.

I’ve absolutely no doubt that the “masseurs” reported back to Epstein on just what happened - whether this was written down or kept in memory only or was covertly video recorded, who knows.

But -There were definitely people who interacted with Epstein purely on a business or charity related relationship only and were l/are innocent of any wrongdoing.

Remember, running a “pedo-club” for high net worth and powerful people, means you must first recruit these people- I don’t believe every second person Epstein interacted with is a pedo- I just don’t.

The vast majority of sex crimes in the Maxwell case, were perpetrated by Epstein himself - there wasn’t a whole list of other people. That’s not to say Epstein didn’t try and entice others into his world- I’ve no doubt but that he did

But how to separate those innocent from any wrongdoing doing from people who did partake in what Epstein “offered”- that’s not easy.

It’s going to take the testimony of the “girls” involved in the first instance -OK, there’s idiot Andy whom no one really cares about- but allegations were made against other public figures including a governor ( now deceased). What has happened to all of these stories and testimonies?

My point being, Shirley if there is a massive file of documented illegal sexual activity with minors and public or wealthy figures, it would have been outed at this stage. It’s Trumps fault for claiming there was such a file when running for president and he can suck up the grief he’s getting now- but honestly I think Epstein was the main abuser - he collared a few individuals along the way but I don’t think other than Epstein himself, it’s as rampant as the conspiracy theories have made it out to be

Ref Trump, Epstein and their associated group, this from a Facebook page rings true. "Please remember the Epstein story isn't really about a list. It's about young girls, powerful men and a system that let them get away with it".

Putting aside he lifted that phrase from Regan, when exactly was America great in the first place?

They might realise that they need immigrants to keep the economy running.