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Hamas strike on Israel

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭Suckler


     Are you a Brit lover?

    As always the last bastion of gibberish is this nonsense.

    Your understanding of the word “occupy” is as flawed as your understanding of Israel.

    You’ll moan all day long about “occupation” and called those travelling to Britain needing a reality check yet you’re quite content to go yourself….” Do as I say, not as I do”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,128 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    You're brainwashed for thinking otherwise. You've obviously been oblivious to the diversity scandal of the last 15 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭Suckler


    I’m now angry at you for making me aware of such a stupid statement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,095 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    It's a bit wild, the most "look over there" moment of the thread or the post claiming those not supporting israel are genocide enablers.

    Sudan , Syria and iran should of course be discussed in the thread but it is the israel/Gaza thread so it shouldn't be a surprise that most of the posts should be on this topic as some other posters have suggested here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,128 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    If flights and accommodation and event ticket are already paid for what you expect me to do? Tell the generous person who just organised that for me to **** off?

    Are you now going to defend the British occupation of Ireland? Are you boys all plants or what.

    I'll just add for context I brought that up in relation to Irish people boycotting Israel and the USA but not Britain. Obviously our own occupation is way down their priority list.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭circadian




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭Suckler


    I definitely wouldn’t expect you to have the courage of your (apparent) convictions.

    I know it’s easier to do so ( as you wrote) “I just think of a bunch of brainwashed people in leafy suburbs not realising the way of this world. It's easy to have this attitude in Ireland at the corner of our great western empire. “

    Funny that we’re part of the great western empire when it suits you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,402 ✭✭✭Billy Mays




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭circadian


    To the tune of More Than a Feeling by Boston,

    I woke up this mornin’
    Feelin’ slightly oppressed
    My lawn had new pronouns
    And my jeans were too stressed

    Then I saw my fridge…
    It had painted a sign:
    “No justice, no microwaves.”
    And my eggs came out non-binary.

    They banned my gas mower
    Said it misgendered the grass
    The HOA told me
    My flag had “problematic sass.”

    The Crayola’s gone woke
    Now “Beige” is “Emotional Sand”
    And my Alexa demands
    That I clap for a socialist band

    [Chorus]
    It’s more than a feeling!
    There’s kale in my Wi-Fi and guilt in my toast
    More than a feeling!
    My dishwasher’s woke and it canceled my roast
    And I scream into a jar of jam:
    “When did yogurt join Antifa, ma’am!?”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,128 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Funny @riddles just posted this in the immigration thread. Don't be complicit in these agendas against the natives (particularly male) of this island. Don't aid in the discrimination.

    "For those who wonder why the media have had an omerta on the real life challenges unchecked migration causes in societal cohesion. There are EU policies and funds on the DEI agenda even down to something as simple as diversity in TV adds new to the parish Irish Times BS.

    Overall, nearly 10% of core EU structural funding and a growing share of research, civic and social funds are tied to DEI-compliance, shifting influence from national-level discretion to EU-wide diversity norms.

    The EU spemds about 7.5 billion funding NGO's

    We spend 6 bn on NGO's a huge figure never once questioned by the likes of RTE. It's a feeding frenzy of corruption the makes NAMA look dimestore.

    But then we are a rather docile electorate and we have seemingly a limitless threshold for mediocrity acceptance in our public services and political representatives and alternatively at least an admiral level tolerance. Inspire of the labels bandied around so flippantly.

    The real challenge will appear when the monetary train dries a point not all that far away. When the economics of free everything for certain people becomes harder to maintain."

    @Suckler great western empire was tongue in cheek. Your response is in tatters.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭circadian




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,548 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Why do Israel have 'force'

    Are they forcing America to send them weapons and build their defenses?

    And you used the word 'right'.

    This implies moral support.

    That we should defer to power instead od holding power accountable through democratic or other means.

    Your world view is Hobbsian and leads to totalitarianism. We know totalitarianism is not inevitable because most of the western world are not totalitarian

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,128 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    The western world is complicit in this morally wrong viewpoint (might is right). Not shy of an aul invasion is the West?

    On the topic of Israel their entire existence is based off force. The West have built them up into a powerful force themselves but they have huge support from Western countries particularly the American military.

    They have both American parties by the balls. Genuine Zionists throughout both parties, soft power through industry they own or influence and they probably have dirt on them too. Epstein part of the Zionist movement, God knows what dirt they have on both parties and people associated with them.

    Here's some homework:

    Might is right - "The phrase can be used to describe situations where the powerful impose their will on the less powerful, often without regard for moral considerations. It can also be seen as a justification for aggression and dominance. "

    "Might makes right" can also be a logical fallacy, specifically an appeal to force, where someone tries to win an argument by threatening or using force rather than reason.

    Bonus content:

    A logical fallacy is an error in reasoning that renders an argument invalid, even if the conclusion might seem true

    Some people are struggling to grasp these concepts probably because they let their feelings get in the way of reason. I don't subscribe to diplomacy in the face of already active aggression. We are humans the violent only understand violence. Arguing with these people reminds me of arguing with people who said the allies were wrong to confront the Nazi's because ultimately it led to an increased death toll.

    Most self respecting Humans won't stand for this. And before it's brought up I've used the Irish example before that force isn't a viable option when you've been dominated and have zero chance of victory ala HAMAS or the Irish after we were conquered. You take the sneaky approach, lay low and ensure your survival to live and fight another Day.

    Ironically it's this sneaky approach that's enabled the Jews to survive 2000 plus years of aggression from far superior foes.

    Post edited by RoyalCelt on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Your response is in tatters.

    Your absolutely nonsensical statements are laid bare for all to see.

    Your understanding of the word “force” and its whole premise is absurd. You’ve openly admitted you lack the understanding of NI and have no actual backbone when it comes to your moral grandstanding.

    “Nobody should go to Britain, anyone giving them shillings need a reality check!”……(5 minutes later)...”I couldn’t not go, sure it was a gift”

    I can tell who’s argument is in tatters…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,128 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Context is key. This is in relation to Irish people who boycott the US and Israel but Britain doesn't even cross their minds. Britain does cross my mind hence I've dramatically decreased my contribution to them and will continue to do so. Irish reunification is priority number one for me not foreign wars.

    Before anyone says it, I do still care about foreign wars hence I've directly contributed financially in the past to them and likely will again in future.

    Btw you've just said it's moral grandstanding for the entire boycott Israeli/American products movement unless that person has cut out these countries completely which let's be honest 99% won't have. That's a lot of Palestine supporters you've just hung out to dry. Me on the other hand respect their efforts but they should include Britain too. And Russia and many other countries but let's not go there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Your response is in tatters.

    Your absolutely nonsensical statements are laid bare for all to see. 

    Your understanding of the word “force” and its whole premise is absurd. You’ve openly admitted you lack the understanding of NI and have no actual backbone when it comes to your moral grandstanding.

    “Nobody should go to Britain, anyone giving them shillings need a reality check!”……(5 minutes later)...”I couldn’t not go, sure it was a gift”

    I can tell who’s argument is in tatters…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Britain does cross my mind hence I've dramatically decreased my contribution to them and will continue to do so.

    Yeah I think I read about the loss of your “contributions” in the Financial Times alright. I’m sure your “contributions” to other wars are part of the decision making process also….

    No worries though they know you can park your moral grandstanding from yonder leafy suburbs as & when suits you… the context of the trips being “gifts” is key I know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,841 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Yet another thread totally derailed by a few posters having a personal row.

    Any wonder Boards is dying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,128 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Again apply your smart comment towards all the Gaza supporters doing likewise. Not the gotcha you think.

    The gifts is key because I've never once in my life planned a trip to Britain. Not even Northern Ireland. The woman had to book a concert behind my back to get us to Belfast. She's not Irish so wouldn't understand. Do I think it'll change anything? Not really but I personally feel uncomfortable flying over to the occupier. Would you expect a Gazan to book a holiday to Tel Aviv if they could. The idea would probably disgust them.

    @NIMAN we've gone off topic because a certain poster couldn't accept diplomacy doesn't work in these situations so shifted all sorts of goalposts because he couldn't admit he was wrong.

    Boards is in the process of being saved as over 500 people have now subscribed. Myself and a few others will be joining once they enable a PayPal option.

    Edit:

    Here's the link lads. Get over and help the cause. I'm sure @Suckler will read about our contributions in the financial times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Again (and again and again and again) displaying your complete lack of understanding of what ‘diplomacy’ is and entails.
    You’ve settled on your misguided “force” synopsis nonsense, we don’t have to all swallow it and can see it for the gibberish it is.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭brickster69


    An estimated 80% of Gaza is at or close to level 5 starvation.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭brickster69


    3 months worth of food is available for the entire city and just awaiting entry. It's like watching a ****ing horror movie or something.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭Suckler


    But why are you not talking about Sudan?!!
    look over there ….Genocide enabler etc. etc. ( not that they care one jot about that either)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,128 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Don't worry diplomacy will sort this out...in about 12 months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,128 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    But why does he cheerlead the Russians against Ukraine is what you should be saying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭Suckler


    it’s not something I was aware of, share a link and I’ll certainly be critical of anyone cheerleading for Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,128 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    This chap is currently the biggest vatnik on this site. Apparently the Ukrainians are a bunch of Nazis and the Russians are liberating them.

    You mainly visit this thread I mainly visit that thread so I don't expect you boys to know but I take pleasure in highlighting it to brickster in here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Would you support for example, China sending troops to intervene in Gaza and protect them from being attacked ?

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    That was one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read.

    "By caring about the genocide I support, you are enabling other genocides."

    They've totally lost the plot and have to go deeper and deeper in desperation as even former Israeli PMs call it out for what it is. Otherwise, they would have to confront the fact that they have been turned into extremists.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Pure whataboutery.

    Start appropriate threads for the conflicts pique your interests.

    This one is about Israel.



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