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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,620 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I can't imagine Russian tourists mixing well with North Koreans. From those we see around Europe they're a boorish lot, usually engaged in some loud and drunken misbehaviour while obnoxiously clad in heavily branded fashion. One would have to imagine they'd be the absolute anitthesis of a typical North Korean…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    https://bsky.app/profile/antongerashchenko.bsky.social/post/3luaf5jzlns2c

    A Russian lady says that food prices keep growing in Russia because all the money goes to war. Her solution - remove President Zelenskyy.

    They really are a broken and deluded nation!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    lol like that's ever going to happen, they wouldn't even spend that much on hardware for our own defence forces, let alone someone elses 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    The scary (?) thing is that almost the exact same thing is going on in the USofA right now too. Everything's the fault of Joe Biden. Kinda weird to see these two superpowers of the late 1900s simultaneously descend into collective dementia … and yet there are still some Europeans who think we should follow their lead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,517 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    IMG_6014.jpeg

    missing third line for likes of UK, Norway and Turkey and Japan

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    On another note, the murdering scumbaggery is deeply ingrained



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,637 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Increasing number of articles coming from the media on how morale is collapsing in Ukraine due to corruption and increasing authoritarianism of the government. High inflation and increasing poverty rates and troops are exhausted after some being on the battlefield for 3 and a half years without a break.

    Martial law was passed for the 16th time a couple of days ago by the parliament.

    https://archive.is/3QCQ7#selection-1835.522-1835.535

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    That's very concerning. Thanks for flagging it. Explains why their lines are collapsing and all those protests on the streets against the government. It's a good thing they don't have a recent history of democratic activism to fall back on, like Russia, or Zelensky would be out on his ear. Probably no point throwing good money after bad - time to cancel all the aid marked for Ukraine. It'll help speed up the process of making them seeing sense and coming to the negotiation table to accept Russia's incredibly fair terms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    Increasing number of articles…

    1 is a number…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭riddles


    Would the Israelis have taken out the Iranian drone factory<s>



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,637 ✭✭✭brickster69


    There is loads, just one yesterday as well.

    https://archive.ph/S2zoX

    People been on the streets in Kiev and elsewhere complaining about the lack of information about missing loved ones, i can't remember where it was but a couple of months ago but some charity organization, i think it was the Red cross or something had 400,0000 individual reports from people who had not heard from loved ones after they entered the armed forces. Just vanished, but they are trying to get information from the Russians on POW numbers.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,117 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    At first read I thought this was sarcasm but realised it was another pro Russian post. What democratic activism exists in Russia when anyone who criticises the regime ends up in jail,poisoned or thrown out a window.

    Putin spelt it out clearly 2 weeks ago he wants all of Ukraine and his buddy Trump has given him 50 days to inflict as much damage he can.Our resident orc posters want Ukraine to surrender to Russia and be governed by a country that has bombed them for over 3 years as well as committing massacres of ordinary civilians



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    LOL. You need new batteries in your Sarc Sensor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,117 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    ok fair enough 😁 but given certain posters here you can understand how it can be hard to see which posts are genuine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,517 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    If I had a rouble for every faux concern post…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    https://bsky.app/profile/wartranslated.bsky.social/post/3luavi7jsm22j

    A large fire has broken out at a Russian military base in Rostov-on-Don, local media report.

    Oh No!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,543 ✭✭✭✭astrofool




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,517 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭Polar101


    The bot factory AI is writing a couple of really concerning articles as we speak. But the amount of own research it has to do is slowing it down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭strathspey


    I hate these f*ckin vatniks. Wish they'd f*ck off to their promised land. In fact, I'd be in favour of rounding them all up, interning them and donatating them to putrids meat grinder!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg6v0pk964o

    Even Merz says Europe was free loading. Trump was 100% right and only his crazy antics were enough to finally get Europe's finger out. It's disgraceful expecting a country across the Atlantic to pay for our defence with Russia. It's equally disgraceful we freeload our defence off to our European allies.

    It's done now and Europe are on the way back. Better late then never.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,834 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Trump will deflect from the Epstein saga and start ranting about Zelensky tomorrow no doubt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,422 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Lets be clear many us administrations had this complaint, nothing new with trump.bots just that Russia is a threat now, so Europe has to pick up the slack.

    And also it wasn't a bad strategy, like we want a more peaceful world with less conflict, there was nothing wrong with the in goal of disarming and creating economic dependence. But Russia had to ruin all the progress because they still live in the previous century. So now we will have conflict and innocent people dying on masse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I agree that it's primarily Russia's fault but the EU share huge blame for a lack of deterrence. In the nuclear sense sure aim to disarm but with Russia's enormous stockpiles and quite large weapons industry it was naive and irresponsible. In times of peace, prepare for war. Not only that but a lot of weapons production was conducted in partnership with Switzerland who would never agree to it being used against Russia.

    We hid behind the NATO umbrella and the US while European weapons production dwindled. America tax payers covering the slack when nobody is invading them. Europe in the other hand we couldn't be so sure. Ukraine has paid dearly for this mistake and other US administrations which play by the rules were laughed at by NATO members. This time around Trumps completely erratic and unpredictable stance forced European hands mainly because if we want Ukraine to win we had no choice.

    I'm just glad things are finally changing and hopefully it's not too late.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    It's not just Trump's "crazy antics" (that is selling it short, it's no joke). The urgency is more down to Russia and Putin IMO.

    Trump was only partly right. Situation where European allies would be militarily dependent & reliant suited the US during the Cold war, and to an extent afterwards, at least until Obama and idea of a pivot to Asia. There was always a tension there, and (somewhat) conflicting desires for the US.

    Anyway, Trump is just making the change harder as countries now also to have one eye open for a US back-stab at some point. The US is waging economic war on all of us right now (tariffs and threats of them). The EU/member states probably can't even respond to that in the way they should, (IMO) because of worries about how it is also connected to Ukraine, e.g. ability to buy US weapons they need either for Ukraine or possibly to defend themselves in future etc. and fears Trump will leverage that dependency against them.

    Would be a far better & easier situation if Europe had a US govt. that was not spreading disinformation about the invasion [of Ukraine], cosying up to Putin, waging trade wars and diplomatic attacks on all its "allies" and meddling in their domestic politics, and was instead fully supporting Ukraine.

    Would be good if they could also 100 % depend on the US to help if attacked by Russia (not a given under Trump, and some likely successors I expect)!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,422 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    I'm not really glad though. Expensively assembled militaries tend to need to justify their existence by you know...killing people. So Europe re arming will be a domino that could lead to European military aggression in the future. Ironically Russia might be the one poking the sleeping bear. It's bad for humanity that we have to go through the inevitable cycle again that ends in yet another world war



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Imagine thinking 5 extra patriot batteries are pointless, that's baffling to me to dismiss it so easy. It's 5 extra radars and 5 extra control stations (the most expensive parts). Missiles are important, but Ukraine, due to it's sheer size needs coverage. Yes missiles are in demand, but a patriot system in Kyiv with a dozen missiles won't protect Odessa. But an additional system in Odessa with 6 missiles can. I'm not sure where you're getting the €429 million for a patriot battery, it's closer to €2 billion each.

    Germany will also be producing Gen 2 missiles in late 2026.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I agree in the sense I would have preferred in trump came in and gave Ukraine the kitchen sink while also dramatically upping production of things like artillery shell production for Ukraine.

    2 issues there, Europe wouldn't have upped their spending on military production or buying weapons from abroad and American citizens would be unfairly picking up the tab when we should be doing our part.

    Look it's not ideal but ultimately it's bad for Russia now that the beast has finally awoken. Germany especially rebuilding and strengthening it's army will be a major boost to European security. Everyone is basically following the Baltic's and especially Polands lead now who had already upped spending to 5%.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    The more I think about Krasnovs 50 days ultimatum to Putin the more laughable it is how he is the master of misconception.


    He has fooled billions of people with the most nonsensical hollow threats.

    Straight out of the Russian playbook.



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