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Hamas strike on Israel

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,218 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    You can watch it on twitter and there is a lot worse than that.

    The Druze didn't start any war or attack anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    So you're a Hamas supporter I assume . The whataboutery is evident.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭purplesnack


    Maybe take a look at the numbers that were involved in the recognised Bosnian genocide before making such glib comments. It's well beyond that in Gaza now and still ongoing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,619 ✭✭✭SeanW


    Israel has a clear interest in protecting the Druze:

    1. Israel has a Druze community of its own,
    2. Israel would - for obvious reasons - prefer to have the Druze communities immediately over the Syrian border than radical Islamist jihadi nutters.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭purplesnack


    Please point out where I said I was a Hamas supporter



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I have no interest in what Albanese said about Los Angeles nor the obfuscation you are posting.

    So, you do actually condemn Israel for their atrocities? Just to be sure I'm reading you right?

    Oh wait, sorry, missed the last bit of post. No idea why you say it's a repeated question - first time I've seen it. But it's clearly framed in a way to justify your real stance - you couldn't care less how many Palestinians are slaughtered. Including the 700+ kids who didn't even make their first bithday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I don't do twitter - do you have a source from e.g. BBC, CNN etc?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    That old chestnut - been a while since that was posted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    So, given the Settlers murdered a US citizen a few days ago, you'd be ok with the US bombing Tel Aviv? There are plenty of US citizens in Israel.

    Israel wouldn't even protect its own citizens on Oct 7th. Slaughtered scores of them as they tried to flee in fear for their lives.

    Israel's only interest is bombing and killing those who stand in its way, it doesn't like or has land that it wants.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Yeah if you or anyone who's not simping for Russia as they try to ethnically cleanse Ukraine on a daily basis said what he said I'd take it more seriously. But I'll take this opportunity to point out the hypocrisy to one of the biggest vatniks and war mongers on this site.

    @dmcdona whatever you think of Israel surely you don't have an issue with them intervening in the Druze massacre that took place. It's like me hoping the Brits don't help Ukraine just because they occupy us. Would you rather they did nothing and another few hundred Druze get gunned down?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    Well you never addressed the post or the video , just went on about how bad Israel is. As if that's justification for the Hamas position of disregarding their own people. Let's leave looking after the Gazans to Israel and blame Israel for all the atrocities despite what we do to them. Using them as human Sheilds is fine as long as we can blame Israel when they're killed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    No problem with them intervening in any way other than the usual bombing tactic. You know, munitions can go astray, as alleged War Criminal #1 (at large) told the Pope today.

    Would you have a problem with the US bombing Tel Aviv?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Is there any research out there on who the Druze on the Syrian side would rather live under if they'd to choose between Israel and Syria?

    I understand they were quite happy under Bassar who was a genocidal maniac just not to them. I believe he was an Alewite so probably respected similar minority groups who weren't Islamic fanatics. I'm probably guessing after this recent massacre they'll be leaning heavily towards the IDF for protection.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭purplesnack


    I made an observation in reply to your comment and all you could retort with is that I am a Hamas supporter. I absolutely do not support Hamas and nothing in my post suggests that i do. And I absolutely do not support the IOF or the Israeli government



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Catholic Church is not buying the IDF lies:

    • Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa, the highest-ranking Catholic official in Jerusalem entered Gaza on Friday to bring humanitarian aid and pastoral care to victims of the IDF tank shell strike on the Holy Family Church in Gaza City on Thursday, the sole Catholic church in the Strip.
    • The aid is not only for Gaza's small Christian community but for "as many families as possible", the Patriarchate said, adding it ensured the evacuation of those wounded in the church strike.

    In an interview with Italy's Corriere della Sera, Pizzaballa said a Catholic presence would remain in Gaza "whatever happens," and expressed doubts about Israel's comments that the strike was a mistake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Seems the Germans have recently been drawing a fair few red lines. Here's another:

    German Chancellor Friedrich Merz told PM Netanyahu in a phone call that there must be no steps taken towards the Israeli annexation of the West Bank, a German spokesman said.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    The Israel intervention brought the Syrian regime to heal straight away. It was an effective intervention and their forces have left the Druze to police themselves.

    As for your question, If America was striking military targets in Tel Aviv, no actually. But that's fantasy talk and won't happen in our lifetimes anyway.

    Would you have a problem with America bombing Tel Aviv?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Haaretz seems to contradict you (it's not an area of expertise for me admittedly and I'm not familiar with the background)

    Overnight into Friday, there were renewed clashes between Druze armed groups and Bedouin clans. Fighting in Sweida has left at least 321 people dead since Sunday, the Syrian Network for Human Rights said on Friday, in a new toll. A Syrian minister said that the government has recovered 87 bodies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I would strongly object to anyone bombing anyone else without first exhausting all diplomatic avenues, sanctions etc.

    And you're right, the US wouldn't do that - but Israel does.

    Warmonger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    So you're a do nothing and watch massacres happen type of guy. I'm not surprised you asked me a fantasy question because you seem stuck in fantasy land.

    When Druze are in the process of being massacred in their droves you don't delay with diplomacy while people die you intervene. That's actually a peace maker but you wouldn't understand that.

    War facilitator.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Your post is a bit confusing tbh.

    Are you talking about the Israelis who use Gazans as Human shields? Israel can of course be blamed just for doing that - it's a War Crime. Worse if the Gazan is killed of course.

    Bit like the IDF lads anally raping a prisoner with an iron bar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,619 ✭✭✭SeanW


    So, there are two possibilities:

    1. Israel intervened because an allied people (the Druze) were being massacred.
    2. The Israelis just like bombing people for s***s and giggles and they sit around in their lair like some cheap cartoon villain plotting who they're going to bomb for no reason this week?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,218 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    An eye for an eye, rapists here get suspended sentences.

    It would have been better if he got a bullet to the head but... Eggs and omelettes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    On the contrary, my views on Gaza and the Israeli Genocide are very clear. I abhor war.

    There was no fantasy question asked - but there is utter hypocrisy of supporting Israel going into berserker mode every time someone does something they don't like yet if any other country did it, there'd be an outcry.

    Of course, the MO of Israel has resulted in them being labelled a warmonger, terrorist and Genocidal state and World Pariah. Not only for Gaza but Lebanon, Golan, West Bank, East Jerusalem and Iran. Now Syria. See a pattern there?

    Presumably you think Israel is a peace maker by committing Genocide. Good on you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Some pretty intense reporting on the Druze-Bedouin clashes by Sky's Alex Crawford; you don't often see actual gunfights on the news…Seems to be a whole complicated background there that I only know know the barest outline of…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I'll take number two Bob - they've been bombing Gaza for 651 days now.

    Did you know they're constructing a Concentration Camp in Rafah? What reason do you think Israel has for that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    In the specific instance of this Syrian bombing they played the peace maker role and that's a fact. The Druze massacre was stopped and doesn't look like anyone will be stupid enough to try again anytime soon.

    War isn't stopped with words it's stopped with an iron fist and might. For example if America told Israel to stop and they didn't but America then bombs Israeli targets, neutralising their air force and air defence Israel would quickly stop killing Gazans. Would you not rather that happened a year ago? A few hundred IDF soldiers would die but 10,000 dead Gazans would be still alive.

    You remind me of those nut jobs that don't want more weapons sent to Ukraine because it will escalate the war.

    The pattern you describe with Israel is they attack anyone who threatens or attacks them. That's the pattern. Otherwise they'd be bombing Egypt, Jordan, Saudi, Turkey and Qatar as well? In war might is right and that's why Israel is winning. You want to defeat the IDF, you need a superior force to stop them not words. And it's why I don't think they'll be defeated, that superior force (USA, NATO) is in their pocket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Well, the IDF had no problem riddling their own hostages with bullets.

    Seems you're happy for anyone to commit war crimes I guess? An uncommon stance but each to their own.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Certainly I would have no support for anyone attacking anyone with violence - you have a different view that I doubt many subscribe to.

    Personally, I wouldn't support a country headed up by an alleged war criminal (at large) or committing Genocide. Seems you do.

    By the way, I wasn't aware Israel was at war with Syria? Did I miss that? Or does the "iron fist and might" apply to war, except in the case of Israel who can go around if bombing whoever they like whether "at war" or not?

    And committing Genocide of course. That particular massacre is ongoing…

    The personal name calling is unnecessary - but not surprising.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I mean you left the war monger comment I'm surprised you can't take it back.

    You come out with these wishy washy statements like you don't support anyone using violence. That's all well and good in this fantasy land you live in but in the real world violence happens all the time.

    Do you propose Ukraine don't use violence against Russia?

    Do you propose Israel doesn't bomb the Sunni nut jobs in Syria massacring the Druze?

    You obviously don't support America using violence to stop the IDF because you love them too much 😂

    Which war criminal do I support btw? If you mean Israel's regime I think I've made it clear as a White western male who believes in nationism the Zionists hate my guts. I've no love for them but I'll call a spade a spade. They were right to protect the Druze this week. Their overall behaviour towards the Druze leaves a lot to be desired but in this case they did a good thing.

    Answer the bold please.



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