Flight to Gatwick crashes near airport in Ahmedabad, India,

Seen as worse by whome? I think (hope) whenever a crash is happening, and no matter where, it should be about the truth, what really happened and not protecting someones reputation. I guess that's why there are always other aviation boards involved in the investigation, as the US board and some other I can't remember.

how true…😁😁

yes, the germans very honest and correct again, as always..😀 what other pilot suicide cases are there (big ones)?

yes, just checked the pilot suicide cases listed from wikipedia and you're right, not through it completely but in the ones I read all airlines/authorities from where the crash happened deny the suicides… so air india/indian authorities play the same game as usual it seems…

Not suicide, but mass murder - suicide, committed by an employee of them while in their service. Of course they want to deny.

…………….. ''No reason whatsoever to turn off fuel''

don't think so but if you followed the case, read a bit about the life circumstances of the pilots, for me, it seems pretty clear. Was thinking, maybe they don't tell to protect close relatives, especially parents and wife/children of the pilot. Not sure but they might be in danger to life threatening attacks if it's made clear who was the culprit (if there is one and it is not, wonder, wonder, nevertheless a technical failure…)

According to the Wall Street Journal they have identified which one it was:

New Details in Air India Crash Probe Shift Focus to Senior Pilot

I don’t know whether that’s the man you meant. I have to say nothing about their personal lives from that article jumps out to me as an obvious mass murder-suicide risk. Maybe there’s more to it than that though.

thanks for articles.

still completely unexplained stays the 10 sec gap between the pilot in panic discovers the fuel cut off and it being switched on. There's only one thing which could happened: a fight where the pilot Kunder knocks the co pilot out. I think it's ridiculous at this stage they don't tell the full story but obviously play the salami tactic. releasing stuff bit by bit. why? If there are idependent bodies from the US involved the truth will come out anyway.

The thing is, this accident isn't fully resolved. Suppose it wasn't the switches at all? Suppose it was a software error turning off the engines somewhat automatically by some fault?

I would suspect if there was pilot suicide involved there would have been loud arguments and raised voices in the cockpit, if one pilot would discover that the other had cut both engines. Something like "are you mad" or "what are you doing", a couple of f words maybe.

As hotblack references above there is still an element of hierarchy in the cockpit at play in airlines, especially in countries with a strict class structure.

A rather meek 'did you do cutoff?' from the FO to the captain is very understandable when viewed from that perspective.

If you watch Mentour Pilot on YT, CRM failings account for plane crashes to this day.

It's hard to come to any sort of conclusion with the limited information we have.

Suppose I was driving a car at say 100 km/h, and the guy sitting next to me is moving his hand to pull the handbrake. Even though I am looking at the road and concentrating on traffic, I'd notice that and a verbal argument would start. The same would be if one pilot would shut down both engines, the other one would notice the moment he'd move his arms into the direction of these switches.

Theoretically both pilots could have planned or contemplated suicide and they didn't argue, but if one of them tried to even move his arms and hands towards that switch, an argument in the cockpit would have quickly started.

Only simply for that reason, I am considering something technical, whatever that technical is, - software or otherwise.

That's not really the same. One pilot would still be aware what the other on is doing.