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Starlink - Anyone get it yet?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    Your thought about using residential lite at your parents made me wonder how much is it a month. So I went into my SL account and I can't see a way to acquire it. I'm only seeing full residential for me.

    When I check the support pages about it, they only seem to show North and South America.

    Or maybe it's because I've a Gen-1 dishy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭micks_address


    It's offering it to me for 35 euro a month at my parents house in Sligo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,853 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    Where are you based? Maybe not being offered to your area. For context, it is being offered to me in West Cork where population density is low.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    Ooh, that's not bad! Is that with getting a dish as well?

    I'm in the middle-of-nowhere Tipperary, where it's mainly hills and farms all around, so very low density here too.

    I'll try again and see if I add a new dish to my account, will it then offer me the Lite option.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭micks_address


    I don't know re the dish I was just going to give them my gen2 kit as I'm not really using it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,288 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    I got Starlink a few months ago in south Galway but ended up returning it. Compared to other satellite offerings in the area it was great but we have had fibre for years so it was never going to compete with direct connection. I just wanted it as a backup for the inevitable outages when storms come through but it was hard to justify when performance would dip with heavy clouds which would be around when there were storms. Also, I mounted on the roof but it would continuously complain about the positioning despite being at the right angle with nothing blocking it. It was as though it was rerouting to different satellites at times and then the angle didn't suit. Just a theory as I contacted support but didn't get any help, just a list of things to check with no further help. Did not like that support was just online. Would have been a lot easier to jump on a call and troubleshoot…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    If I were to order new kit (Gen-3), I got the €35pm offer, so I reckon it's the dish.

    I had Starlink for 3+ years. Clouds were not a problem.

    Many years ago I suffered a geostationary satellite solution for a couple of years, which was horribly affected by rain fade. I just knew, when I saw the gentle mist rolling in across the valley to the south west that my 512Kbps downstream was about to go to shyte. I had no alternative until I got FWA.

    With Starlink, the only time I noticed it being weather affected was under an INTENSE hail shower, and that was only because I had the Snow melt feature turned off!

    I would fully agree with you that fibre is the much better solution. Though I have said here a few times since switching, from a browsing perspective, I've barely noticed the difference between Starlink and 1Gbps fibre from Digiweb. We're a two person household and neither of us are a gamer.

    The upload though, is where I have really seen the benefit of fibre. I work with very large files and sync them with the cloud and, oh boy, I blink and their synced! 😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,288 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    Yeah, the upload is where it was most disappointing. Not the most performant when using Azure Virtual Desktop and Teams for example. I didn't really buy the clouds thing either. Plenty of satellite solutions work fine with cloud cover. It actually didn't take a performance hit when we had heavy hail. Part of my issue could be that I was trying to use it by powering it off at night and sometimes powering off at points of the day too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭Bedouin79


    lads I’m ready for the ridicule here. But for some reason I can’t find what I want on the internet. We have Starlink mini on the reduced €30 sub for our mobile home. My predicament is this I need to take down the Starlink in the winter. I want to leave the cable coiled under the mobile rather than have to fish it out and then back in next year. It’s bone dry under mobile but obviously I’d need to protect the end of the cable. Any suggestions how I could seal the end of the cable for the winter without any moisture getting to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    A waterproof electrical dry box might be the answer.

    I use this in a shed that the rain blows into https://www.amazon.co.uk/DRiBOX-Weatherproof-Connection-Electrical-Transformers/dp/B006IRGB8O/

    and there are cheaper ones available.

    Obviously depends where you put the box but if its up in under the mobile home I don't see any problem. If you only have cable going in one end the other end seals itself.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭Bedouin79




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    On a VPN so getting UK ads. Followed a referral link to the UK pricing.

    WOW UK basic price is £75 and ours is €50.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭lukin


    I have had Starlink for four years but I got connected to fibre a few weeks ago. I am keeping Starlink as backup but I want to plug out the power supply to it as I don't see the point in keeping it plugged in when I don't use it.

    If I do plug it out and in six months time I need it because a storm has taken down the fibre line, will it still work?
    Starlink won't deactivate it because it's been dormant for a certain length of time?

    Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,142 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    You'd pause your account. According to them you can pick up anytime.

    You would I assume have to perform all the updates could take 20 to 30 mins to reset up though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭micks_address


    When you pause the service they say they might not have capacity to reactivate you but I seriously doubt that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭lukin


    I won't pause it so. I will plug it out and plug it back in every few weeks to check it is still working.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,142 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Incredible waste of money.... they won't be running out of capacity in a country with Fibre back haul across it...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭lukin


    Not really because if there is a storm (and there will be) trees or branches will take down my fibre line. It won't affect Starlink though (unless the leckie goes off as well). So that is why i am keeping it as backup.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Just cancel and sign up again when required. No point paying when not using it.

    No fear Ireland will be oversubscribed when you go to sign-up again. New fibre customers are cancelling their service.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    Intending on doing the same myself when NBI eventually drags their way to my neck of the woods.

    I did read somewhere that the dish can get so out of date that it cant update itself though so might be worth booting it up every 6 months and letting it run through updates, though it might have been a thing on older gear not sure.

    Out of interest is anyone here running one of the performance dishes? My upload is kinda all over the place, 4.5-20mbit, wondering if the wider FOV would help out since when I first installed it was only showing the lower 1/3 - 1/2 filling up in the obstructions map up here in Donegal. Its filled since but everything above that line is the sparser polar orbits.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,142 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    50 pm is a waste of money tbh as an unused back up. As above. Sign up when needed. Its setup this way.

    Once my fibre is in that's exactly how I tend to run it. My left eye il be paying 600 per year continously on the off chance a tree takes a line down. Il pay the 50 adhoc if needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    As the others have said, there is no point in continuing to pay for a service you are not using.

    I've had NBI for the last few months, but I'm keeping my Starlink dish exactly where it was, just powered off. I've suspended my account and will re-activate it if the fibre ever goes off due to fallen branches or whatever. I really do not think that Starlink could be oversubscribed in this country, as the NBI continues it's rollout.

    If you are insistent on keeping Starlink active, then you should bind it to your fibre link (if your firewall/router supports that feature) and make use of the combined bandwidth. This would also give you uninterrupted service (as long as your Starlink has power).

    On the updates matter, that was not something I had thought about. If I power up the dish, will it pick up updates if my account is suspended, do you know @Tommy Lagahan?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    I've read over on Reddit a Starlink dish without an account can still access the Starlink website so my guess is it should still receive updates,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    👍 I shall give it a test and see what happens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    Well good news everyone … updates to Starlink work even with inactive accounts. 🥳

    I unplugged my Starlink around the 27th of March. I plugged it back in there a short while ago and fired up the Starlink app. The router was not connected to my LAN, so I connected via the Starlink WiFi and I was presented with this:

    Screenshot_20250717-234626.png

    Once it had finished, I rebooted the dish and:

    Screenshot_20250717-235226-EDIT.jpg

    I'll set a reminder to power it up every month, to pick up any updates. I really could do without discovering my cold backup connection is FUBARed when I need it most … after some storm!

    Thank you @Tommy Lagahan for putting this on my radar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    And just to round this out, I left it up and running overnight and this morning the router was also updated:

    Screenshot_20250718-130636.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭editorsean


    Starlink has high packet loss on the uplink, which effectively throttles the upload speed due to the TCP CUBIC congestion control most operating systems use, which relies on packet loss as a congestion indicator. From experimenting with the TCP BBR congestion control which uses latency instead, it makes a huge difference. I'm also in Co. Donegal, using a Starlink Gen 3 kit.

    Unfortunately Windows does not provide TCP BBR support and the TCP BBR2 congestion control in Windows 11 uses a combination of packet loss and latency as congestion indicators, which gave me no noticeable improvement. With Linux Mint running in a VM (Hyper-V), speed tests are often over 50 up, such as the following example:

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    The only workaround I found for getting faster upload speeds in Windows is by relaying TCP connections through the Linux VM, such as with a Socks5 proxy. For example, where pCloud normally gives me a sustained upload speed of just under 1MB/s (multiply by 8 for Mbps), it was getting around 6 to 8MB/s relayed via the Linux VM:

    Fast pCloud upload on Starlink.png
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    Jaysus that's a lot of info, thanks!

    I haven't noticed a huge amount of packet loss on CS2 though, mental high jitter (30+ms) and the occasional bit of loss that I was assuming was from switching sats, how is that possible if its really lossy? Game automatically doubling upload packets? It'll be UDP rather than TCP as well i suppose.

    Only Linux machine I have handy is the Steam Deck at the moment. I must wire it up to the router and see what it makes of it, immutable OS might not let ya futer with this stuff though.



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