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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 14/08/25*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Flying Dominos


    Will miss this thread if boards is shut down. Great to read the opinions of like minded and far more articulate people than me who can see the damage the reckless open borders policies are doing and even more so the future effects of those policies on our society as a whole.

    From talking to people it seems to me like there is widespread objections to the uncontrolled immigration policies particularly around asylum, the general pace at which the demographics are changing and the knock on effects around housing and access to services this has. This is not being anti-immigrant but anti unsustainable immigration. There is a big difference.

    Yet this is not reflected yet by our politicians or main stream media. It feels like there is a huge disconnect there and we just need someone to channel this public sentiment and speak up for common sense.

    Malachi Steenson and Gavin Pepper aren't it and will never be it. Maybe some of the more articulate posters on this thread might consider going into politics?!

    Post edited by Flying Dominos on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭harryharry25


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    So Minister for Justice Jim O Callaghan has been lying about the amount of immigration we are having in the last while.

    Not only lying about it, telling us the numbers are 1/2 what they really are

    Some people believe that FF and FG are getting hard on migration, they arnt they are just lying to please the anti immigration crowd



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    We can't keep up and frankly speaking I don't think we want to keep up. At every opportunity the Irish have made it clear immigration is too high and we continue to get ignored.

    With us rocking an insanely high debt I don't want us building a crazy amount of houses to keep up with a crazy level of immigration. If a major crash arrives, immigrants leave in their droves and the Irish are left bailing out the banks again. More houses for Irish born, less immigration please.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,010 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    It doesn't surprise me.

    For me I keep seeing the illegals turning up to Dundrum house even though the premise has planning permissions issues including fire safety, this government just keeps sending these illegals over and over again.

    They have no concern about these peoples safety and just wants them housed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,868 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    As you like to hear stories let me tell you about a time a few years ago when I was working in a creche and a self proclaimed "citizen journalist" appeared where I was working.

    I recognized him pretty quickly as a guy with far-right views and was previously sacked for animal abuse.

    The children were so frightened by this strange person showing up shouting abuse at the manager and trying to record video on his phone they all started to cry.

    This country is really gone to the dogs. I can't see a way back.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Flying Dominos


    Did you mean to quote me? I'm confused how this anecdote relates to my post???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    We could also do what the Swiss do. Foreigners generally cannot buy property for pure investment or rental purposes. Swiss property law limits these purchases to safeguard housing availability for residents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,868 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Ah you only want anti-immigrant posts?

    Do you agree with a convicted animal abuser showing up at a creche? If so it's not a good look.

    They say the reason they are there is to "protect the children" ironic at best.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Flying Dominos


    II've absolutely no idea what you're on about.

    First you said I like stories. What's that supposed to mean?

    Then something about who I assume to be Philip Dwyer with the dog kicking reference. I absolutely despise that man. What in the world has that got to do with what i posted?

    Are you smoking something?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    The demographics buying up the newly built estates in and around Dublin would quickly change if Irish born only were allowed buy. First step should be Irish citizens but our government doesn't care about us.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,868 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    What has this got to do with my post? Why are you trying to link me to your racism?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,868 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    "Are you smoking something?"

    No I'm not smoking something. Thanks for asking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    Problem is they won't leave. The country will be paying a fortune to keep them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Flying Dominos


    Ok. It would've been an explanation for why you're not making any sense. Care to answer my other two questions?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Repro212


    Sadly no surprise. Similar to Labour over in the UK, whose supposed harder line on immigration is just a ploy to buy them more time to advance the open borders agenda there. With Reform breathing down their necks, they've got to be seen to do something but can relax knowing much of what they've suggested will be blocked or significantly delayed by the courts.

    Other European countries are facing similar challenges. Some are trying to push back or undo the damage already done. But the weak men running Ireland have just lay down and let us be steamrollered. I'd go so far as to say they've kissed and caressed that steamroller as its made it's away around the country. Such is their contempt for ordinary people and indifference to the damage done.

    Every other day there are examples of certain groups being emboldened, as Irishness is signed away - as if it never really mattered anyway. Well, it matters for most of us. It is getting late in the day but we are still a majority for now.

    Time is clearly of the essence. For those of us on the same page, what is the way forward here?

    And like a poster above said, this thread has been helpful for me to, as depressing as the subject matter is. If Boards does go bottom up anytime soon and we are whooshed off Microsoft Teams style to threads elsewhere, it's been good to chat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,117 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    This thread has gone to the dogs since moderation ended



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Flying Dominos


    Just listened to David McWilliams podcast on immigration and housing. https://open.spotify.com/episode/3rfD0jxKeXzQLwKIwGepHF?si=72mJJci0RCC0txToppcDQA

    Some interesting figures broken down around the factors affecting the demand for housing including the types of immigration and emmigration, obsolescence of housing stock.

    He says, based on real data, that there needs to be in the region of 100,000 houses built per year to start tackling the housing crisis at the current levels of immigration.

    To the delusional people who keep saying we just need to build more and immigration is not a big factor in the housing crisis, do you think that is achievable? I think we're currently at around 30,000



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    we’re building a lot less than 30,000. Most of us in the industry believe that the real figure for this year will be closer to 20,000 than 30,000. Probably around 22,000.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Flying Dominos


    Disappointing to hear that but cant say im surprised the real figure is significantly lower. It wouldn't be the first time a mistake was made on this.

    Maybe just maybe the rapidly increasing deficit of housing is somehow related to the rapidly increasing house prices.

    Probably someone will be along in a moment to tell me the two are completely unrelated!



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I’ve seen it claimed several times on this thread that immigration doesn’t contribute to the housing crisis, a view that literally makes zero logical sense. It has also been claimed that we should increase immigration in order to build more houses, with no concept of how this would become an ever-increasing circle until the country was literally blanketed with houses.
    The pro-immigration lobby cannot come up with an answer to how a small island is meant to take in and house the world, because they know themselves it is impossible. Unfortunately they are prepared to destroy the country rather than face this dilemma, as their entire world view is built on dogma rather than logic.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,455 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Hopefully the hangover is not too bad this morning lad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,896 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,958 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Must be embarassing growing up in a first world country with free college education only to get outbid on houses by immigrants 'from shithole countries'.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,914 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Yeah. That always got me.

    You can apply the same thing to jobs. If some lad can come over from Romania with English as his second language and land a job over the vaunted natives, what does that say?

    I'm guessing the same people who were desperately telling us that the Trump presidency is a meritocracy wouldn't say that about my hypothetical Romanian.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What a remarkable viewpoint.

    You think an Irish person who works in a normal job should be embarrassed that someone from say, India or Nigeria (with a combined population of nearly 1.7 billion people) are richer than them? Seriously? So an Irish nurse, solicitor, teacher, mechanic, plasterer or medical consultant should feel ashamed of themselves if the son or daughter of a foreign billionaire can outbid them on a house?

    Wow.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,914 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Ah yes, Schrodinger's immigrant. Here to take all the jobs and all the welfare.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Another idiotic one liner from the great and wise dark horse.

    I was responding to the poster who claimed immigrants were doing so, as you well know.

    Got the proof of your last mad claim yet, no?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,958 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I thought they were all here to scrounge off the system, get free houses and pay no tax?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Can you point to the post where I claimed that?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,958 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    You replied to me, I don't remember engaging with you in the first place.

    So are we actually facing a wave of 'foreign billionare' immigrants? Excellent, that should be great for the economy.



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