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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It also showed that FF pick up far more transfers from other parties unlike either FG or SF.

    IMO the idea that FF shouldn't run a candidate is daft, this is an opportunity for them to return to the us and them politics pre-2011.

    I can't see Catherine Connolly or McGuinness winning, it's McGuiness's to loss, she's not that impressive she comes across as above people, while quite spoken Connolly will be seen by many as a Leftie.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I can't see Catherine Connolly or McGuinness winning

    Seriously no chance for either of them? Even if Mary Lou doesn't run and FF goes with Cynthia Ni Mhurchu or Colm Eastwood?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Cynthia is a non-runner, I can't see Eastwood running its a strange choice unless FF are actually will to progress into a union with the SDLP for future elections, he's not well known enough in the south.

    If it is ony CC and MMcG then Mairead will win a landslide.

    FF would do well to choose some one easy going and not offensive, same for SF.

    For either MM or MLMD to run both would have to be guaranteed the presidency, neither will take that risk unless pushed to do so.

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    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,807 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    My dear fellow, in these things the bookies are never wrong.

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    Off the page, Cynthia Ní Mhúrchú is 33/1 and Eastwood is 50s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,227 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Except they've been wrong more often than right in recent years. Particularly months out.

    I think you've been rather serially wrong in confident predictions too, come to think of it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    If I went in and stuck €50 on Connolly her odds would go to odds on (they probably wouldn't allow that much a bet on a novelty bet either)

    Didn't the bookies have FG favs for most seats a few weeks out from the GE. They finished 3rd



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Well who do you see as likely to run for FF and would they be significantly stronger than either of those two?

    "I can't see Catherine Connolly or McGuinness winning" seems to imply that even if FF and SF ran weak candidates or none at all they would still have no chance. Come to think of other than their current leaders I can't think of anyone seriously proposed as a candidate for either SF or FF who could unequivocally be described as strong…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    The public appear to like a "leftie" as president, despite what certain people say about Michael D, recent polling has shown he's the most popular leader in the country with an approval rating of 64%.

    His praise of Castro & Chavez, strong condemnation and accusations against Israel along with his willingness to criticise the government on housing and homelessness has seen him branded as an outspoken socialist in some quarters but the public don't seem to care, if anything it seems to enhance his standing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,431 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Should be noted though that Higgins was far better known in 2011 than Connolly is now - a TD for 30 years, a bigwig in the Labour Party and was a government minister at one point. Connolly would be largely anonymous with the public in comparison.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    No she was suspended from Labour for not supporting the Anglo-Irish Agreement, funny she never seemed to have any opinion on the North except for that and ignoring and b€llshitting the Bloody Sunday families



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    Presumably he is after the anti-immigrant McGregor vote.

    Surely he isn’t so foolish as to think people want him as President?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,470 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    They'll all have to hope there is nothing out there in their past to trip them up and the government runners have the additional, not insubstantial threat. that the public is in the mood to give the government a bloody nose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    A name from the past, Maire Geoghegan-Quinn mentioned here. The first female minister since Countess Markievicz and oversaw the decriminalisation of homosexuality. FF could do a lot worse I'd say than convince her to run.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,807 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    What a stupid idea.

    Nobody under the age of about 50 has a clue who she is. She's been retired for the last 11 years and would be the oldest person to take up office as President since de Valera.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,346 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Mod: The Politics forum is not After Hours. Any more childish name calling of politicians will incur a one week ban

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,227 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    She'd been retired for a reasonable period before her last comeback too, so there's a history there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,470 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I think Ganley is someone the Irish electorate are suspicious of.

    Like Gallagher and Casey he is far too desperate for high office withour doung any legwork.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,227 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Ganley likely couldn't afford the diesel to do the campaign at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,425 ✭✭✭mattser




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,914 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Ganley has tried and failed to be elected a good few times at this stage.

    For someone who was quite successful in business, it's surprising that he hasn't realised that he's well past the point of cutting his losses and walking away.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,431 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    He would definitely be the 'right wing' candidate - I believe he is good friends with Nigel Farage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Hopefully we will have a real choice FF, FG, SF, LP/SD/PBP (centre-LEFT), Aontu/II (centre-right)

    If this is the case then it will really just be a vote on the government and the political establishment.

    I think many don't see cohesion on the Right or Left, meaning transfers to FF and SF respectively, leaving Mairead in 3rd place.

    That's just how I see it, Mairead doesn't come across well, she's massively institutionalized. Comes across as harsh, my way or the high way type. Dismissive in any debate I have seen her in, but I don't think the nicey nicey act that Connolly plays would stand up to that if in a debate on their own.

    But perhaps it is already determined, yes I think Bertie would trounce Mairead in a debate. And while I won't vote for him… he might actually win!

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    A credible candidate with the intellectual heft and communication skills for the job. Age may be against her. Certainly better than any other FF related name that’s been mentioned so far. And could pull votes from a broad spectrum.

    Would make for an interesting race if the line up was four females with McGuinness, Geoghan-Quinn, McDonald, Connolly and (blessed among women) Ganley or Casey playing for the right-wing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    “yes I think Bertie would trounce Mairead in a debate”

    Anybody stuck debating against Ahern has only to look at his infamous 2018 walk out interview with Tim Sebastian to realise how vulnerable he is. Can you imagine how well he would stand up to this line of questioning in interview after interview and debate after debate. He would be hounded mercilessly, time and again.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/bertie-ahern-cuts-interview-short-3970516-Apr2018/



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,346 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I've updated the mod note to refer to childish name calling of politicians e.g. Simple Simon
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    The one thing about your prediction is I can't see Labour supporting a former member, especially one that was so outspoken against them during their time in government between 2011-2016.

    SF seem to be keeping their cards close to their chest regarding whether they will nominate their own candidate or back another. The other most likely being Catherine Connolly as that could be an easy win. Also, her winning would trigger a bye-election that SF might have their eye on.

    I can see the grassroots FF members wanting Bertie on the ballot. But once a debate starts about his bank account he will largely fade away. Could FF support Catherine Connolly? Like SF, an easy win potentially



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    SF seem to be keeping their cards close to their chest regarding whether they will nominate their own candidate or back another. The other most likely being Catherine Connolly as that could be an easy win.

    Surely if they were going to back Connolly the time to make that call is now. Would be pretty lame for them to go through a lengthy 'consultation process' only to announce at the end "Yeah we're on Team CC after all." Same goes for Labour…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    While I can't see her winning, I think Labour getting enough TD's and Senators to back an another left candidate would really be unhelpful to CC campaign, split the vote and make Labour look bad, I think they will prob sit it out.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    True, I suppose I was think of the Debates between him and FG leaders in the run up to General Elections

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


     I think Labour getting enough TD's and Senators to back an another left candidate would really be unhelpful to CC campaign, split the vote and make Labour look bad

    Unless it was a really strong contender with an appeal beyond the conventional left like Joe Duffy or Mike Ryan. I guess if Labour had somebody like that in the pipeline we would already know…



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